Roe v Wade overturned by US Supreme Court
Folks, this is not the way that life is supposed to be. These lawmakers are paving the way for decades and decades of suffering and misery. And if you think that this court is going to stop here, I think you are very seriously mistaken. Unfortunately, samesex marriage is at risk. A number of rights are going to be at risk. It's very clear that this Supreme Court has confirmed that they are a conservative Supreme Court of the highest degree
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:20
Many of those organizations are connected to the ones that provide money for transportation to other states to do what you need to do in those states if you're at risk, we're going to do this. And with regard to the decline of other rights because of this, we'll go back to I think everything has cycles, and there was complacency on our part, I believe, around latching on to the biggest problem in our country, which is Electoral College
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 3:19
Because so many women were dying and so many people with uteruses were in need of abortions and were desperate and were doing anything they could in order to not have a child for a variety of reasons that should be no one else's business unless that person who's getting that medical procedure or needs that care wants to share about it
Jack .
@zejacques · 1:54
Hey, Taylor, thank you for sharing your swell and your thoughts here. And Deb and Bowie, appreciate your sharing as well. Bowie, I didn't know that about Chicago and the history of abortions there. I shared a swell on my page to just venting. Like, I just woke up this morning reading this, feeling sick to my stomach and just like, what comes next?
And I would suggest that if we're putting this in a historical context here, access to health care and to contraceptives and the things of the nature that we're talking about, they just weren't accessible to the same degree that they are now, nor were they of the same quality. So I don't quite understand where you're coming from, unless you're coming from a place of religious beliefs. And if that's the case, again, that is fine. You are entitled to your opinion
Kate Skinner
@ktpie · 1:14
I'm just saying and this is actually true. My body my choice is honestly BS. I'm not going to get angry about it but hear stories all the time. It's the boyfriend's choice or the family's choice. They get gaslighted to abort their baby because of family issues. It's not always the woman's choice
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 2:19
Expand your own worldview and deepen your understanding of how power works in this country and what that means for each of us as individuals who deserve autonomy and freedom of choice over what happens to our Bowie and how. So just some further thoughts to expand upon what you say, because I think that this is something that I would like to see continue to be part of the conversation around this. And I think sometimes we can get lost in just the folks on abortion because it goes so far beyond that
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 3:52
It should not just be the woman's choice because the baby's in her body, because she knew the baby was going to be in her body when she put that p**** in her body, she knew it was a good chance there was a baby going to come out of that. So that's just my little two cent on it. Now, as far as them overturning the law and making it, now they have to know that you are creating another class of criminal
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 2:55
Straight married couples who for whatever reason there's a long list of reasons why couples would choose to make that choice decide to not have that baby, whether it's for financial reasons, health reasons, spiritual reasons, all reasons that I'm sure they feel is the right choice just as much as you feel that your beliefs and choices are the right ones when you make them
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 0:22
Wow, that's heavy. I've never no, I've never seen an abortion, and I've never I mean, crushing baby skulls, that's just that's just saying. Just the image of that alone is wow
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 2:49
And there's also the sad reality that many women live in fear of telling their partners because they have abusive partners and feel scared for their lives. Or like in this situation that I grew up in, my mother got pregnant as a teenager with someone who was a drug addict and she grew up in a very religious pro life environment and essentially, from my view, was forced to have the child. And that was very, very difficult
Kate Skinner
@ktpie · 2:47
Hi there. I appreciate that you're so calm and I'll try and keep calm myself. I don't think babies should suffer because of the sins of I'm not talking I am not actually Christian, so don't get that religious crap on me. The sin or the father shouldn't or what the father does shouldn't impact the child. And yes, I have been pro choice, like I said. Another reply and I have changed my mind because babies are human
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 5:00
And that's what nature is built off of. The physical world is built off of definitions, crystallization of things in a concrete form so that you can categorize it, so that you can name it, so that you can understand it. Right? I don't know. This abortion thing is a very sensitive topic for me. My late mother got rested so great when she was young. And the result of that rate was my oldest sister, who God bless her soul as well
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 2:39
And my brother and I have both talked about the fact that we were both unplanned pregnancies and the difficulties and traumas of us growing up because of that. Now, does that mean we don't value and appreciate our lives? Absolutely. But that is also why I believe in choice. I would never, ever say to you, you know what, you shouldn't have the choice to bring your pregnancy to term. That is your choice
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 3:24
Like, you can't just be pro life when it comes to cells that could potentially eventually grow into a human child, but not be pro life when it comes to protecting the lives of women against men who want to control their bodies or who use their bodies or who harm their bodies in other ways. You see what I'm saying? Now, if you're still saying, well, I don't agree with that, then I would say I think that's something to examine
Kate Skinner
@ktpie · 2:37
I'm gonna ask you. I believe okay, here's my window. Two weeks. There is a plan B pill you can take. Where is the line where people are taking abortion after they're fully formed, after a few months, three months, they've got a beating heart, they've got a heartbeat. And you're saying about control. I don't think it's about control at all. I think it's protecting life, and that's what all it's about
I don't really post very much on this platform because I just feel it's an echo chamber. And this thread just kind of solidifies that from the comments, as I'm seeing here. But, hey, I just wanted to say I think it's a good thing and I think that the ones who deserve the most rights are the ones who can't speak for themselves. And that's a baby, a baby deserves the right to live. I a baby
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:41
Is that? Oh, no, I wasn't no, of course I wasn't referring to I understand that there's extraordinary cases. There's always exceptions to every rule. I was just talking about in general, of course, if the woman is scared to death because some jackass threaten to beat her up or do whatever to her, if she has an abortion, of course don't tell him. But I don't know. Of course she's not going to tell him
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 2:14
Hey, so just want to point out that not everyone does have access to birth control the same way that not everyone now because Roe v. Wade has been overturned, is not going to have access to travel to make their choice to have an abortion, even if they they do. You know the rights. Condoms fail, birth control fail. I know someone who had an IED and they got pregnant twice. All of our bodies are different
Kate Skinner
@ktpie · 0:43
Woke. People have been firebombing pregnancy centers that supply young mothers with diapers, with the necessities of being and a mother. Now, I don't know if you defend this. I mean, there are churches that help young women. You don't have to actually be Christian. They're there to help you. They're go through this tragic time. If you don't want to raise a baby, they can help you. Just don't murder your baby
Nothing is more precious than the life of a baby. And as a father, I can attest to that. And I have my regrets in life. And unfortunately, I can't keep change what's already transpired. But I can say that people need to cherish life and stop worrying about themselves so much and to let nature take its course and realize that, unfortunately, bad things could happen in life, but good things can come out of bad things. And I've seen it myself personally
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 0:28
Hey, I appreciate you adding to the discussion. There's a lot of diverse voices here, actually. And I'm curious. You said baby if it has a heartbeat that deserves to live. So I'm wondering if that means you believe that abortion is okay as long as it happens before a heartbeat is present. Since someone can be pregnant for a fair amount of time before there's any development of organs or a heart or a heartbeat
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 0:17
Hey, so I actually don't know of any woke people's firebombing pregnancy centers. So if you want to link to a source or an article or something that is referring to what you're talking about, I'd be happy to look into it and read it, but I don't know what you're talking about