And so even as I know that grief comes and she sits with you and visits with you in her way, in her time, and then she retreats, who knows when she'll come around again? Even as I know these things about sister grief, I also know that Sister Peace and Sister Joy, or Brother Peace and Sister Joy, however you want to describe it, that they don't just come to sit with me, they abide with me. Brother Peace and sister Joy abide with me
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 0:32
Hey, Jai. I wanted to welcome you back. And first of all, just sharing your feelings of grief with you. I just loved how you spoke about it when my dad passed. It was definitely a monumental experience that I hold with me all the time, actually. You get more alive when you deal with death, I think, and a a lot of ways. And welcome back to Swell. I'm glad you're here and looking forward to hearing your voice more