Or at least show them that the box is not meant to be stayed in, it has to be broken apart and people have to think outside of it. So that's my question. Should Freethink just be free thinkers and not be afraid of being offensive? Because for progress you need offensive people
To put it another way, if a thinker offers something and there is no resistance, then is it making an impact? Is it leaving its mark? Is it causing change? And if not, then is the thinker really offering offering something that is of great value? That is something that only a thinker can offer. However one defines thinker
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 3:01
That's a good question. So what you're asking is the value of a thought. How impactful, how meaningful can be or we thinkers can be. So let me put it this way. What I believe is that change is terrifying for most people. Change is accepted by some people. But change is something new and new is frightening. New is something that we have to wrap our heads around and that takes time
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Sontaia Briggs
@PKBriggs · 3:13
Hello? Good afternoon, Isa. Hopefully you can hear me pretty good. I'm outside. It's a very interesting swell. You posed a lot of questions and I'm just going to I think I'm just going to speak on the question in the image. And I think that's probably the overarching question. I think that you can be thinkers, as you put it, or free thinkers without being offensive. I think people are offensive, can be offensive
I think that was well said. I like the distinction between the preacher and the thinker
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 3:00
And I come up to you and I tell you that the world is not flat, it is round, and the world is going around the sun, right? And I'm doing this in a very pleasant tone, but the subject in itself is very offensive to you, a priest in the 14th century, isn't it? It goes against everything that you believe in. It goes against your entire institution. So the subject elicits a kind of an offensive response
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 0:22
Thank you so much. Happy to clear something up and talk about new stuff so, please, you know, keep subscribing and let's let's talk more, discuss more, debate more and be free thinkers
Sontaia Briggs
@PKBriggs · 2:30
They just disagree with maybe the masses in some sense. So I think that I guess what I'm calling into use of that word is a little bit interesting to me. And what are you assigning to it and how you're evaluating it and then evaluating people ultimately based on whether or not they have this very high minded way of thinking. So these are the assumptions I'm drawing based on how you're using that word. And I think that is closed minded. Right
So of course, for the most part, the world understands only a toxic, harmful, conquering way to exchange thoughts and ideas. It's not until we start developing relatively new, healthier ways to exchange information and thoughts. My thoughts are no better than your thoughts. And quite frankly, our thoughts are coming from similar places such as the collective, the collective unconscious, God. Our thoughts are not our own, but the thoughts we carry and use and share with the world
We've been enslaved through language. And language is really like the part of the backbone of culture. So, for example, being an American citizen and being forced really to learn and speak English over whatever my ethnical culture speaks, that's part of colonization. Now, with that adoption of that language, we're also adopting a way of thinking too, because how you express and how you identify is in that language
Ketki Bansode
@Ketkiii3 · 0:31
Hey, there. I really liked your swell. It was really relatable. Because I actually keep thinking about what if I said this to him? Wouldn't I come out as offensive, or it would be just a normal advice or something. Yeah, that's it. Well, I'll look really forward to listen to you more. I thank you
Varun Aich
@varunkaich · 2:37
You know, what happened in the Red Fort in India, then before that, what happened in Washington, I mean, whatever happened out there. But these are very standard incidents. Other than that, I think in terms of free thinking, I think that there's been a huge transformation because of technology, because of internet, for example
Varun Aich
@varunkaich · 1:45
Yeah, and also sorry, I forgot to mention the point about being offensive. You know, like you mentioned, we are living in a society. So when we live in a society we have to, you know, take care of each other's feelings, of each other, his emotions. Now if somebody says something regarding somebody's relation, this is going to be offensive and there is no need
Katie Spottedcrow
@spottkat2u · 3:42
And if we brought together those things and embraced those things, I think we could have a more interesting society and be able to just, I don't know, equalize ourselves, I think, because we're just so divided as people nowadays, and we put everything in boxes, we put everything in a category all the time. And why do we have to have categories? Why can't we just be together in one? So that is my question
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 1:07
Hello at Spottkatu to you. Thank you for the reply. And I have to tell you that I do agree with you. Right. So what you said or the gist of what you said what I understand from it is that offending people shouldn't be the end goal of a debate. But if it does lead to offense, that shouldn't be a deterrent, should it? Embracing difference is hard for some, easy for others
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 2:20
But should emotions be the litmus test by which we measure ideas? For example, let's talk about the last 200,000 years of our evolution from neanderthals. Humanity has been primarily driven by emotions. Emotions for family, for religion, for community, even for survival. The majority of our time on Earth was dictated by our base emotional impulses. Now, fast forward to the industrial Revolution and we see science displacing populism and sentimentality. This kickstarted something of a revolution, right?
Iza Nagi
@shakalatte · 5:00
What if the free thinker is the one making the ludicrous statements and the person responding in offense is the one talking with common sense and right is on their side? Should that be a conversation? Should that be a discussion? Well, I think that's not the point, right? Or that's the point exactly. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that a wrong idea is being shot down by a right idea. What matters is the barter of ideas
And theologically, religiously, spiritually, this is always an act. Any kind of myth would say that God sent this messenger or selected a person to deliver a message to people. And those messages typically are nine times out of ten, offensive to the structure that is there, or the rules that are there, or the thoughts that are there being cycled
I'm sure that there are polite thinkers, I'm sure that there are conformist thinkers. And while they're interested in interesting to study, I certainly wouldn't want to be one. Actually, I've never been able to be one. I've always been offensive. The things that I've said have always made people uncomfortable because the darker things that aren't supposed to be spoken of or the things that I'm comfortable with, because those are the things I've known my whole life
Because you don't have too many people I heard as bold enough to speak on issues at hand and not worry about the offensiveness of other people. And I'm getting to that point in my life where I'm about to not let people stop me from speaking my mind, especially when it's something very serious that affects my life and the lives of my children. So I thank you for this topic questions, and I look forward to hearing more of your stuff. Thank you. Bye
Anuj Singh
@wydHAWK · 0:23
Hello there. Ah, this is a great topic, and it's unique to see these kind of topics as well, because I think the question that you asked us is actually something to be thought about and how our society works. And it was interesting to listen to your answer to this question. So, yes, good work
Vrinda Goyal
@Itz_vrinda_dear · 1:03
Hey there. I think you are right, because Kahina Khan society kohani thought skye so that's why I think so. Society and many people, like in New Generations, for example, we are very vocal about certain things and the previous generations does not consider at this as a good sign or consider it as disrespect to them
Benedict Garrett
@Bendi_G · 4:59
Other people can hear them talking about it's not a problem. Nobody batters in Ireland. But if I did that in England, not even talking about India, but if I did that in England, some people would find it offensive. But I was sat next to them on near their table and they could hear me talking about sex, they would find that deeply offensive
Sontaia Briggs
@PKBriggs · 2:37
And I think the only thing you can do is when you engage individuals or when you're being engaged, is to just try as you're listening, maybe getting emotional or upset or p***** off or excited, is to remember that this person is not you. They are 100% entitled to their thoughts and feelings, even the bad ones, because that's just the way balance goes, right? That's the way life goes