And she has a really wonderful conversation with her own former poetry teacher, Abram Abram van Engen. And I agree with quite a lot of what he has to say about poetry. The context there is Christianity, and I'll say that I'm not a Christian, but I think I've said before that the relationship of poetry to religion and to different forms of magic and transformation is a really profound one. And so I'm not ever upset when people emphasize that kind of relationship
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 1:56
It's almost like when you really drop into a tub or a warm body of water, you just become this floating thing and how healing that is. It's so beautiful. Wow. And to connect Summer to this is a challenge, especially because we're living at a time where we're being reminded about things that are organic but detrimental to our lives. Like this whole I wouldn't say organic. I think that part of the world heating up and on fire is not what is supposed to happen