@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 5:00

Pain

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Pain. Just the sound of that word evokes strong emotional responses from all of you, myself included. And we probably have in our best efforts, structured our lives so that we don't experience this particular emotion, our loved ones, our possessions, our God, all in hopes that we don't experience pain. Why experience it? Can pain provide nourishment? Or is pain simply something to be avoided at all cost? As I look at this particular quote, I was struck in awe by its simplicity

Is a necessary evil.

@LadyO
Ophelia Johnson
@LadyO · 3:16
Maybe not entirely, but just knowing of its existence, knowing that it's there, knowing where it comes from. You're right. It helps you grow. It helps you move past the pain into a new place of understanding and awareness. And that in itself is a feat. I just know just simply for myself, understanding that a lot of my pain comes from a place far and near has helped me to understand that those events that happened have happened
@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:49

Pain is not unique, but relatable. @LadyO

I would get excess copious amounts of bad food for me, all this and that sort of stuff. But then once I kind of just sat there and start thinking about, why did this happen? Trying to get some sort of reasoning behind it. It started to make more sense to me why I reacted to it in the way that I do. And now, as you said, pain is a combination of many emotions
@KrishSeh511
Krish Sehrawat
@KrishSeh511 · 0:55
It's not just you. Everyone who has just hears pain have a very strong intimidation in their self that no something bad is going to happen. But, but it is nothing. Pain is just defined as that. I mean if we talk just out of the box then pain is just a word. It's just a word to denote the feeling. The feeling when we feel a very bad way. And that is what we call pain. And everyone has felt it as everyone knows
@OhioGirl42986
Paige Lovelace
@OhioGirl42986 · 0:43
I am a chronic pain patient, so I can't just turn off the emotion when I have to deal with pain every single day. It's just an emotion that I don't want. But my body is making me have. Pain changes a person, and I am not the person I used to be anymore. And it really, really frustrates me. And it hurts me because there's so much I want to do in my life but can't because pain lays me out every single day
@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 3:16

@OhioGirl42986

As you stated, you were a different person before this pain came to be your reality, and to that I say I'm sorry. I know it doesn't mean much, it doesn't change the physical pain you are going through, but it is still my sentiment I share with you out of empathy. This pain, however, has not stopped you from still trying to enjoy some aspects of your life. You're here on swell. And that to me, is a sign of hope
@OhioGirl42986
Paige Lovelace
@OhioGirl42986 · 1:12

@FryedOreo

It may not be much to some people, but to me, just to get out of the house is good, because for a very long time, because of COVID and everything else, I was stuck in my house. And I don't like that feeling. And I want to thank you for your empathy, because when people hear the word chronic pain patient, they automatically assume things that they shouldn't because they don't know you
@OmegaStrange
Demarkis Klan Destine
@OmegaStrange · 4:27
I don't think there will be no Israel if it wasn't for I guess you could say I'm trying to be kept in my words, but I'm just going to say Hitler, right? There would be no Israel without Hitler. Or what would the relationship between blacks and the European Israelites, because we always have this competition of who had it the worst. So imagine a world without the history that we have now
@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:49

@OmegaStrange

One must forsake things that bring them joy or happiness, for it will only bring you pain and suffering. It's kind of echoes a lot of Eastern philosophy and spirituality. To be stoic is to understand that you can have pain, understand you can have happiness. And yet you treat all of these emotions the same. You had mentioned pain and historical trauma, generational trauma, I believe they call it. Some feel this is not a thing, some feel it is a thing
@theheartdrive
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 5:00

@FryedOreo last sentence: without knowing the depths of loss and its suffering.

We lose the freedom or the versatility to do things that we used to do before. So losing one's health is extremely painful. Then I guess there's more abstract forms of pain as well that maybe come from beliefs we have about things or it could be anything from the way our family should act to as you were pointing out in your swell beliefs around religion, possessions, everything, right? I don't know that pain makes us better or stronger
@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:52

@theheartdrive

And I thought that's an interesting way of looking at it, because pain is like one of those cluster things. It's clustered with despair, with sadness, with anger. It's pretty much like all of those things, right? And in terms of shadow work, we can sometimes fail to integrate pain because we think pain is bad. No, you can't examine your pain. You have to just get rid of it. There's no point in thinking about it and why it's there
@Swell
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15

Welcome to Swell!

@theheartdrive
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 5:00

@FryedOreo i know… crazy talk…

It pain me to admit that I kind of thrive on exploring pain. I guess it's been such a prevalent experience in much of my life, especially the earlier part of my life, that there wasn't really much of a choice but to come to terms with it. You're absolutely right that socially speaking, pain is not something that's okay to explore at a mainstream level
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