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Surya V
@welcome28 · 4:57

PITRU DEVATHAS ? Come lets learn about our own clan

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Its parents runam towards their parents due to their birth to them and the generations of Pithrunam remains intact due to the chain of births in the family. The soul is expected to visit the Pithruloka, get cleansed and be born once again. Till finally some avaduta takes up the responsibility of reliving the soul from chains of births and deaths. The karma so accumulated is shouldered by the avaduta

Lets discuss about the concept of pitrus / forefathers #talk #swell #askswell #podcast #spirituality #swellcast

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Surya V
@welcome28 · 4:48

Part-2 on pitrus !!

Namaskar. Welcome back. We are talking about the Pithrus. We have seen their dominance in the other worlds, that is, astral worlds, because they are more in number than actual devatas. In order to gain any devata, or in order to gain peace in meditation, or in order to gain peace in your mundane life of your Pitrus should permit, so none can escape them. They are found in every talk of one's life
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 4:58

Part-3 on PITRUS

Vasu rudra Aditya. These are the three Rupams. So first one becomes Vasu, then he becomes Rudra. Then he becomes aditya. Then the merger with the Lord is possible if all circumstances are possible. But in this Kaliyugam we keep on repeatedly. We keep on born, birth and death again this cycle is continuing. Somehow Kalyugam is like that. One more beauty with the Pitrus is your own thoughts which you are getting are not yours, it is theirs
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aamna singh
@aamy · 1:44

Pitra dosha is not always harmul 🙏 #swell #religion #spirituality #ancestors

That is something I'd like to highlight here that always go to somebody who is a Siddha person also. Our horoscope of course reflects it and all of that. But it is also true that which may be surprising, that pity dosha is not always a harbinger of doom. It is something from which you can take a sigh of relief. Because it's your karma also that adds to it, right? So stay away from the bad karma
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 1:13

@aamy

And yes, Samudrikam can help us to an and, but not astrology in spotting the dosh and all. But I am not concerned about Pithar dosh and all, because when we pray to our forefathers sincerely, everything will be mitigated, everything will be sorted out. That is what we believe. Thank you. Thank you very much
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 1:02

@aamy

So what our elders said is read Ramayan, read Bhagavad, read Mahabharata so that your Rishi Runam will get paid off. It is a kind of paying off them. Like that Pithrunam will be paid off by giving Tarpanam by giving Tarpana by giving the Dhana to the other us in the name of your forefathers. Like that. There is Devarunam. There is Rishi. Runam. There are several kinds of debts. They are not doshas. Actually, dosha is something different. Okay, thank you
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aamna singh
@aamy · 2:50

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There's so much we can discuss and gyan ka vishesnaka surya group Nahi, Utah or itna gehram insan johan humbly accepts karakai so surya I think Bhatt with this kind of information, with this kind of swells too, because I think people like us again, as I feel that whether we talk about astrology, whether we talk about general karma basics, or we talk about life in general, all of that, it is like knowledge being imparted and that is inclusivity, that is bringing the community together and creating space for more such topics is always, always welcome
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 2:43

@aamy

Hello. Thank you for sharing your insights. They are really wonderful and coming to astrology personally, I don't have a habit of seeing people's horoscope. Long back I have even stopped seeing people's horoscope. Also I basically use astrology for spotting a particular planetary combination, for starting a ignam, for starting a homa or for some ritual, or maybe for devatarchana or for giving donations
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Pragati Chopra
@Pragati.chopra · 1:23

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Hi Surya. Thank you for sharing such a valuable information about our ancestors and that they belong to this pitru, Paksh. Because earlier, all I knew about our ancestors and pitrudes was that there's this pithrupaksh and we do puja of this annually. And during this time, we offer prayers, foods and clothes for the peace of our departed ancestors. And this is what we have been seeing our parents do. And we also follow this. And I have known the importance of this recently only
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 0:31

@Pragati.chopra

Hello, Pragati. Yes. That's what many families do in Mahalaya Paksham. Also we call the pithrupaksh. We give some food, some clothing in the name of our forefathers. That has been a practice. Yes, it's a very important practice. None should neglect it. And I am glad that you are following and continuing. It's very good. It's really good. Thank you. Thank you for sharing
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Pragati Chopra
@Pragati.chopra · 2:58

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I mean, if it is our life and we say it's our thoughts, it's our karmas, then how come our forefathers or our ancestors are driving this? I mean, yes, I truly believe that they have a role in a lot of things that we do in our life because we have their DNA. And I think some of the other qualities we actually have it inside us
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 5:00

@Pragati.chopra

Entire cosmos he have created and he have given attributes to each and everything. He created the gravitational force. Same way he created the inertia. He created all physical loss, biological loss, chemical loss. In order for this humanity to expand and exist. This is life cycle. But whereas Karma many people use the word Karma just like that. But Karma has a very wider scope. Of course your life cycle is due to your Karma. But your life cycle in one way is independent of the Karma
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 5:00

@Pragati.chopra

And your other question is whether the soul which is born in one family can be born in the same family again, right? It may. Or it may not be. Because there are various entities in this cosmos who tries to capture the soul in order to strengthen the dark forces. Yes, there is light. There is also dark. Dark also does its work. So the dark will capture sorry. The dark will capture some of these souls and it uses for influencing the people with the dark thoughts
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 5:00

@pragathi.chopra

If an egoless person or a very alert person or a very conscious person can spot the horizon of the thought normal people like you and me will just go with the flow. That's all. But when you really contemplate, you can understand. You can understand very well that. And it is not a wrong thing to get influenced by Pithrus. Naturally they influence. See, just instagram is influencing. Kids these days. Youngsters these days just an app. Mobile app
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Pragati Chopra
@Pragati.chopra · 3:06

@welcome28

That is a life cycle and the actions and the good or bad that we do that makes our karmas and our karmas can influence our life cycle. So thank you so much for explaining that to me. And also about the dark forces, some topics about soul dark forces and ancestors. This is a very fascinating topic for me since when I was child, I don't know, maybe it's all because of again the pithru thoughts maybe like you mentioned
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Sreeja V
@Wordsmith · 1:47
Hello Surya. Thank you so so much for discussing this topic. And while I have not yet been able to grasp entirely, you know, what has been discussed, some key elements have kind of stood out for me. Two questions. First is you said that an Avaduta or a Master can help you sort of transcend that phase, right?
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 4:58

@Wordsmith

Many people are in a misconception that once the soul reaches Lord it cannot be reborn and all no again the big Bang happens again lord will split himself into large pieces and each piece reflects the very same Bhagawan and we will all be reborn again. Maybe in next Big Bang or maybe next Satya Yuga or where the yuga ends due to the entire destruction and again a new beginning again we will be all born new. Okay now coming to your doubt what is the role of an Avaduta or a Datatresvarupa?
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Surya V
@welcome28 · 5:00

@Wordsmith

So in the earlier podcast I have discussed about how avaduta handles prarabdas. That is one way and I will discuss one more way. There are multiple ways. There are lacks of ways how avadutas work or how divine masters work. But lifetime is not sufficient. So just one more way, I will explain one more way some Duttas follow is they just nullify the karma
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