False advertising: when the question is NOT a question.
And if I'm being honest, I don't mind it as much on a blog post because we go into those with the expectation of of mostly simply consuming what it is we're going to read there. But when it comes to a swell, I guess this is where I find it frustrating. And I guess this really comes back to how I use the app. I want to have conversations with people
Dewuan .
@FryedOreoΒ Β·Β 3:29
I think that's where you really start to once you're able to tap into that energy and you're able to see questions that people don't, that's the hard thing to do. It's hard to do that because I think, too, a lot of people, they're trained by their favorite podcaster or favorite social media influencer how to form content, so they come off as being a mini version of that
Because my brain needs to have interaction outside of myself to be able to challenge ideas or think about new things in different ways. And that only comes from human interaction. I don't know. I'm splashing around in the shallow water but longing for the deep water. So I suspect that's why I run into more situations where I see the clickbaity or false advertising titles versus swells. It's frustrating. And again, I think my frustration comes from fake human interaction. But anyway, I get it
Swell Team
@SwellΒ Β·Β 0:15
J.L. Beasley
@Her_SisuΒ Β·Β 3:51
And then I start stumbling over my words because I realize I need to wrap up quickly and then either it ends or and then I'm just not in the mood to go back for a part two where I end it in a question so that there is dialogue. Or sometimes I'll just end it so that it ends with a complete thought. But it's so close to the five minute endpoint that I don't have the question in there
I take a while before I follow people often because you can still have great conversation or two, but that doesn't give you a real feel entirely for who they are or what they're going to consistently bring anyway. To question or not to question, that is the question. I don't know how much it matters. I want transparency, want to be treated like a fellow human, and I want conversation. Am I asking too much?
Tanya Coles
@MsColes77Β Β·Β 3:17
I was just responding to someone a few minutes ago and I said one thing you said that really stood out to me, to let them know I'm listening to you, that I'm not just on here trying to get comments and that's it. And I don't pose things just to make people want to come to my post and listen. And I'm not really sharing anything valuable. I'm sure that happens a lot. Heck, it happens on just about every content creation platform
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 3:47
So I know it sounds funny, but when Christine does those little workshops on how to use the app, I listen to those because it's not a huge investment of my time and it's somebody better. It's going to save me time from having to go out and research it. So I know for you, if you're talking about podcasting, what people like, people's behavior like you're in on this conversation right now
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 4:31
Facebook allowed a certain degree of that creativity, but not to the extent that Swell does. And I'm going to go into the replies on this one because I'm very passionate about it
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 4:26
So I thought that Facebook allowed for that creative platform until I got on Voice, until I got on Swell and then I realized how limiting Facebook was for the type of content that I wanted to put out and engage with people in. Now it took me there was a bit of a learning curve because I had been so used to not using my voice. And I think that is the inhibition for a lot of people. They have gone so long without using their voice that they've given up on it
That's the reason why I engaged with it, because I knew that you really wanted to know. Anyway, all of this to say is that because I come into the app with the expectation of looking for conversation, I guess that's how I'm viewing the different swells and different things that people are putting out. And I sort of check out new swell casters or new topics because I'm looking for people who also want to do sort of explorative conversations and topics
Tanya Coles
@MsColes77Β Β·Β 1:20
And I'm always willing to take critique and feedback in areas where I need to grow because this is a new experience for me. And so, like I said, I pretty much mingle between the same group of swellers. I don't listen to a whole lot of different people, but I'm a branch out, listen to some more people. But I get what you're saying when you say that people ask questions and they're not looking for real dialogue
Dewuan .
@FryedOreoΒ Β·Β 2:26
But over time, I think I got more confidence in my voice because I had more confidence in what I wanted to talk about and what my aesthetic would be to the person who's listening to me for the first time. So when I do make my, I guess you could say, podcast out here, I always try to come from a place of I envision myself as a YouTuber, believe it or not, to which how I present content, not as a podcaster
I think social audio is so amazing because it can be used in so many different ways. And so I don't know that there is really a right or wrong way or even a better way. I mean, it depends on the goal, right? If one wants to create a large audience, then you might do one thing. If you want it to be just an audience, if you want it to be about conversation, you might do different things
Thank you for adding that nuance and complexity of the conversation. I think it was around when Tanya made her post Miss Coles and she asked me for an example of what I was talking about. But I really took some more time to reflect on it. And I think that although I was projecting my frustration outward, that it was really my own issue of not adjusting and adapting my own expectations. Because I can use this app in one way seeking the conversations that are explorative, curious, thinky, thinky
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 4:03
The connection that can be made between client and therapist so that the client can gain an intrinsic ability to believe they are valid, they are worthy, they should be respected regardless of how their mind works. But perhaps as importantly, how important it is to go out and find and seek people like you who can understand you, connect with you. Because that is, in terms of the scientific research, the true source of happiness
And me getting frustrated with anybody who poses a question that is not a question in my mind wasn't specific about the different kinds of wiring, but was instead a narrow perspective of it was even a distraction. Maybe because you're right, I'm looking for certain kinds of conversations and then I will get distracted by whether it was a question or not and what was underneath the click, so to speak. Right. And that was about my expectations. It has nothing to do with anybody else
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 4:22
So when I first got on the app, I thought that was what I was supposed to do and I was trying to fit my content to mold into what they were wanting. Now I've kind of gotten away from that a little because I'll try to do it when I can, but I can't do it every time for my type of content and I don't want to crush the creative fun in all of it
And in my opinion, sometimes it's harder to find them in real life because there's not the number of people that want to have the kinds of conversations, let alone the frequency of conversations, right? And so when you open up the doors by going online, especially into social audio, that number can grow exponentially because you're now including the entire planet, and that makes them more possible
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 3:35
And yet I really liked it, and it was like, at a really good point of the podcast that I wanted to continue listening to. So I remember at that moment like, oh, man, here it is. I'm going to end up going trying to find out, spending time trying to find out what happened to this thing, only to find out that it's not in my control to be able to listen to the remainder of this podcast. And then I remembered that I knew Christine
But that means then that although there is a divide and a growing divide because of those different ways of approaching topics and issues, both kinds of wiring are needed in order for us to work together and get things done. And so if only we could recognize that even that kind of wiring is needed, necessary, then maybe we could appreciate each other's strengths, um, and celebrate those and work with those and work with the struggles that we each have too
Jordan Tepper
@JordanTepperΒ Β·Β 4:37
And I found in the days of COVID when everybody was inside, clubhouse was entertaining and I actually connected with some good people. I was mainly in food rooms, as you can't imagine. And I talked to foodies and chefs and cooks and food truck owners and nothing really came about it. But now it's just a trash site. It's awful. And I'm just weird
And anyway, we're currently here. And that's what I loved about it, it's just being able to put your thoughts out when you have them and no pressures like podcasting, because there's all a bunch of ideas around that, right? Of it being about branding and it's essentially you having us not you specifically, but any of us having a soapbox to say whatever it is we want to say, but without the interaction
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 0:10
I just noticed Jordan's Car warranty title myself and got the same chuckle. Well done, Jordan. That was great
Do they want me to share with them so that there's a group of us all in the same thinking? Do they want and even differing perspectives? What is the goal here? What is it that's wanted not just from the individual but from anyone who's willing to participate? Are we collectively painting in a picture of some kind? I mean, that metaphorically. And what is it that we're painting in? And so what am I being asked to be a part of?
Do you remember when you said you thought maybe I was apologizing again for my own neuro wiring? And I wasn't seeing the connection between that and what I'd been saying prior. I think there was an element to what you said that was true. I'm not sure about the apologizing part, but most definitely about the differences in neuro wiring
Renee πͺ¬
@RensLensΒ Β·Β 3:25
You? Yeah, I mean, I totally understand what you're saying. I think, you know, when I think that being frustrated with how something is posited, for lack of a better term, something that happens with both neurodivergent and neurotypical people, I think that the neurotypical person would probably look at this too, this type of scenario, and be like, well, what is the poster asking for? And might do also a bit of an analysis
Thank you for your advice and your suggestion. I don't want to get in that habit either, of apologizing even for frustration, because you're right, it's a part of the spectrum of human experience and feeling and thought. Even though I sometimes go through this, what I mean, I'll put out topic and then throughout the conversation, my perspective on whatever the topic was may shift. And then I'll start to feel maybe regret for putting it out there
J.L. Beasley
@Her_SisuΒ Β·Β 2:01
I do the same where I do not follow people until there is a degree of consistency in their engagement on the platform and most importantly, their engagement with me as a person who's listening to their content and responding to their content. And so if they keep up, that engagement over. And I really honestly don't have a defined period of time. I'm just looking for consistency over a period of time. And I get it. People fall on and fall off
And a lot of them, especially the more people you follow. I don't even know how anybody does it when they're following, like hundreds, let alone thousands of people. Just, wow