'Women: do this too & all will be solved!'

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I also find it rather insulting to men because on the one hand you're telling women do this additional thing. You're adding to the pile of things that women already do, right? But then you're also saying women, you have the power to put the screws to men and manipulate us and coerce us into quote unquote, stepping up, right? And so basically you're saying men, you're not going to step up, you're not going to make change unless we women force you to

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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:52

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So it's just like another example of men giving you one more thing to do or more work or more homework for you as a woman as to suppose him as a supposed man having to fix the situation. However, just the whole sex strike is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life
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@space-luchador

I do think they exist, but it's this particular kind that I have a difficulty with because there are inconsistencies with their language, their thinking, their behavior, with the message of I support women or I'm a male feminist. Right?
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@reply

They call me a narcissist and all sorts of stuff. But anyways, let's see if I can go down the list. When I said they don't exist, I mean in the sense of that they're not real. They're all cons. No male or man can be a feminist just on the very fact that he's not a woman, right? I mean, it just doesn't work. And by this I mean the motive. All men have a motive
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@space-luchador

And how do you find a common ground of understanding one another, if you know what I mean? Because I'm not looking for evidence or proof of anything, because I don't think all men are fill in the blank or all women are fill in the blank, as I attempted to highlight. I think there's differences between what's, biology, psychology, sociology, like the stories and structures and things that we've made up as humans
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:57

Know your self first is key

And that's why I say it's simple, because it really is. Our role is simple in this world. Everything else is complex, right? Like our body, our body itself is complex, but it means it works in complex ways, right? Because it is a system, the organism itself, right? Millions of little organisms inside our bodies. That's complex beyond our comprehension, right? How it is it even works, we barely have an idea. But same as the universe
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@space-luchador

Right. So we're giving subjective examples, and those examples don't match up, obviously, because we're standing from different angles of the sculpture or the zoomed in perspective of the elephant. And somehow together, all of that information creates a quote unquote truth. So ultimately, I'm seeking understanding. That's my quote unquote motive. I wouldn't call it a motive, but if you're defining it that way, I'll use that language. One final thought
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@space-luchador

And so when I think about from that from like a science perspective and then I start to look at history and I look at ideas that we have come up with over time that have ebbed and flowed in. Different regions in different ways around the planet. I don't think that at the origin of these ideas or constructs or narratives that the message then, or the idea then is what we hold today
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@space-luchador

By the way, you never have to apologize with respect to timing. I mean, I'm not concerned about any of that. If someone wants to take I've had people respond to me, like, eight months later, or people come into conversations a few years after they were had. It's all good. No pressure. Okay
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00
We are all interconnected needed, if you will, right? So it is a relationship, it's a need on need basis, right? So once you understand that, then you can identify, well, who needs who more than the other one, right? And again, that's subjective, I guess
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00
When you understand that is a powerful thing, because you can use it. But anyways, again, that's something that only some women do understand. They understand. When I say that, guys seem to just they look at me like I'm a nut job. But anyways, some do. And when they do, then they start seeing the big picture. But anyways, I'm going on right on a big rant. But yeah, that is being aware, right?
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb

You know what I mean? So that's the blurry line of is that person aware or not aware of his actions? However, as you do get more and more aware of your actions, you realize that every action has a reaction, right? Every move has a consequence. You get that as you get older, sadly, right? Because when you're young, we don't really see the consequences. Or maybe we're young, a young mind, we don't see fear
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@space-luchador

So I don't know personally what a universal truth is, however I hear people describe things as universal truths or absolute truths but yeah, I don't know, it's a foreign idea to me. I am so with you with respect to awareness being a curse and a gift and I don't know either when people decide when they're intentionally ignorant of what they could be aware of, right?
@ozzymendez
Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 4:55
So if someone was just dismissive or sort of giving you a pat on the head type of thing, especially about woman's issue, it's like, come on, this is wow. It's beyond rudeness. Yeah, I've met people like this before. Yeah, they're not amenable to feedback, amongst many other things. I've heard of that idea, though it's a few years ago, it was some kind of women stopped doing certain things
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb

And I'm a good listener. I really am, because that's part of the test. I actually listen to what people say, and I listen deeply to every word, every sentence, every second, and I look for what is it you're trying to say? Or what's the reason you're even saying it in the first place? And you come to realization they ain't saying nothing, and there's nothing there. Like, literally nothing there
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 4:54
Now there's one thing that's interesting in particular that you said. You said there's a certainty that we're all going to die along current known technology. Yes, but I think we have to be optimistic about that for what the future will develop because otherwise it's a matter of life and death, literally. It's either
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Kitha Larie
@chitchatwithkkΒ Β·Β 3:38
And the guy called me and we were just chatting and I had talked to my friend a few days before. She had told me that she had had sex with him. And she tried to stop, but she couldn't, and that she was no longer waiting because she had broke her promise. And he called me, and I remember him talking, and I said, oh. I said, are you still being Sullivan? And he was like, yeah
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:50
Everything's bad for a guy today 2023, but you notice that everything else seems to be celebrated. Oh, but you can't be a man because that's toxic masculinity. Well, there's a reason for that. There's a reason for that. And it's quite simple. It's a scam con artist. They conned men into being weak, and then all the women come out and say, well, where's all the good men? That's the ironic part, right?
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But it really talks about how it's flawed book okay, but it does talk about some things in there like how what it is to be human is often defined as what it is to be a man instead of the entirety of what it is to be a human man woman. And then that means it's all automatically a bias perspective of like the default for being human is man and man is not 100% of human, it is a fraction of humanity. Do you know what I mean?
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 5:00
What happens is it might be a long process in many cases, but if somebody wants to get out of that, has any even slight desire to get out of that paradigm, then they need to engage the higher functions, not the lower reactionary functions. And they need to change their circle. And you can't give someone motivation. I detest motivation speakers. Not universally, but the way they act. First of all, you have to be an extrovert. Okay?
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 4:59
But these behaviors, insofar as they are an example or almost a totem of what they want to be or want to become, they're not who they are. People have to explore that for themselves. There's some things that are hardwired in us. For example, I've always loved nature. I think that's innate. I've always loved fires. I believe that is innate. And yes, I could say that I had childhood experiences in both these settings and that's true
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@space-luchador

What you describe as a quote unquote universal truth with respect to death is sticky for me. I can agree that this human body comes to an end, but we don't know what, if anything, happens after the body ends, right? We also don't know what humans will create with respect to being able to upload the brain or clone or whatever, right
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So just a request, you can go back if you'd like, but definitely going forward, please include the username. If you hit the reply button on their specific reply, it'll insert it for you, or it should, and if not, you can still hit the at symbol and then start to type their name and then options will come up. If you have any questions, let me know
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@chitchatwithkk

Is it Keitha? Did I pronounce that correctly? So I've listened to your reply a few times and I'm curious because I can't make sense of it. Did you listen to the original swell, let alone from start to finish? I can't quite make sense of the connections and so I'm just curious
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 0:33

@SeekingPlumb

Hello. All right, I'll just keep those as sort of commentary on the overall post. I think one of them was a reply to someone else. Hopefully they'll find it. Yeah, sorry, I thought it was automatic. Yeah, I'll definitely check that in the future. Thanks for the heads up
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@ozzymendez

It gives you an idea of who you are, but it doesn't show you how your face lights up when you're excited about something or that sparkle in your eye or the funny quirk of your lip or something when you're concentrating. And like those beautiful moments that only other people get to see. All we get to see is this mirrored, two dimensional, literal and figurative representation of ourselves in the mirror, you know?
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@ozzymendez

No apologies necessary. I don't think it's very intuitive the way the app is set up. Like the reply button in the top right corner does not insert a username. But if you hit a reply on a specific reply, then it will insert a username and it doesn't tell you that anywhere and it's not really intuitive. And so we see a reply button and so we just hit reply anyway. I don't think it's very intuitive
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 4:51

@SeekingPlumb

But you don't always know what they mean, even by that. On a neurological level. You have an idea. Of course, you mostly have a pretty good idea. But you don't see things quite as other people do. You don't. See colors the same way, even if you're looking at the exact same object
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:45
And women are more celebrated and given their dues, if you will, women in general, would you be satisfied with that? Like, is that the goal, to just recognize that women are the be all, end all? And here's the or, and I want to phrase it right, or would you be satisfied with just one man? One man, that's all. Not the world, not the rest of the women, not the universe, right? Not nothing. Just one man
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@ozzymendez

Or they lash out because they're angry or hurt or defensive or something else going on in their lives or any number of things, right? Or they're seeing glimpses of pieces, let's say, and fitting them together in just such a way that is an inaccurate representation of what they're actually seeing. And anyway, when people do reflect back to me, there's like a filtering process I go through of what is it that they're observing? What is it that they're really seeing?
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@space-luchador

And you're talking about how women are not invisible except to be human is understood as default. The man's experience that inherently makes it that women are invisible. We're only visible when we're serving a purpose or fulfilling a role, but we're not celebrated or appreciated simply for existing. I mean, so many examples can be pointed to where men have been the default
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb #women

'women are not invisible. Here's a taboo topic but that's why I like this type of stuff, because women say they're invisible, right? Or they think they're underappreciated. But the point is, when guys overappreciate women and this is again another topic, but when guys give everything to a woman, a woman will just turn around and kick us right square in the ass, right? And basically discard us
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@space-luchador

Have you ever heard the quote that says men are afraid that women will laugh at them, while women are afraid that men will kill them? I think this is often interpreted in a variety of ways, but for me, it's very indicative of the different lived experiences. Like as a man, you're almost the apex predator on the planet, and that is not the lived experience of a woman
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00
I'm very familiar with it. Let me rephrase it. It's not the woman actually the man is afraid of being made fun of, but it's rather a man is afraid of being ashamed by a woman, which is a big difference. It's being ashamed to making fun of, right? And therefore the woman is afraid of being killed by a man. Now, here's why I claim to know what I know
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@space-luchador

I want to be empowered by learning. I want to take in process, figure out what makes sense to me and what doesn't engage with that person wrestle with the ideas to come to my own understanding because like that Toddler, then I can get up and walk on my own. But to have it handed to me as if someone has all the answers for me to consume and regurgitate it's not what I'm about
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Joshua Tito
@ozzymendezΒ Β·Β 2:47

@space-luchador

It. Oh, hey, I had some thoughts on some of the things you said. One of the things in, like, domestic violence, there's usually a very strong victim mentality. They made me do something. But the truth is that some people are simply very primitive and they respond to their own traumas by lashing out. And that's quite simply what domestic violence is now, men and women lash out differently, usually. It could be, as you said, of killing someone
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00
And that comes with, again, like I said, it's a curse, like I said, to have it figured all out. However, you kind of answered yourself with the toddler thing. But I do. Listen. I listen when you say you don't want an explanation, right? You don't want it or need it because you've been put off, you find boring, whatever the case. But you basically explained the toddler, right?
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:58

@ #king

There in the animal kingdom, there actually is hierarchy where the woman is actually more powerful than the men, right? In some cases, like I'll give you an example. Praying mantis. Praying mantises. When praying mantis procreate, the female mantis usually eats the male mantis. However, it has been shown or seen that not all mantises or male mantises get eaten by the female mantis. Now, this is a phenomenon or how maybe you want a rarity, right?
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@space-luchador

So it's rare that someone's going to do something else. Not rare, but not as common, right? So who is it that you're trying to communicate to? Or what is your goal in speaking publicly? Because obviously you think that a good portion of the population is beneath you with respect to how you've thought about things, tested them, come to the conclusions that you have, which would seem to imply then that they are not almost not worthy of consuming and regurgitating your ideas
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb

Like I said, I've been in clubhouse and I tried to tell people, speak publicly, but it was groupthink, like I said, and I'm not saying these people are beneath me, but I saw their motive. They were just trying to be right because they were trying to be right for the sake of being right for the showman thing, like you said
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb

It. Anyways, I ran out of time again. And like I said, I could go on and on, right? But like I said, I'll give you a quick example of basically the most simplest form of politics, right? And the whole purpose is not to explain politics, but to explain the big picture, all right? This is just as simple as it gets, okay?
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:53

@SeekingPlumb

It. Oh, and one more thing. This is why I wanted to invite you to the podcast, is because look, I know. Trust me, I know. I've dealt with a lot of people, all shapes and sizes, women, men, even the ones that whatever, you the other side. I don't even want to say the words because, like I said, you get banned, right? All it takes is somebody on here to just like, oh, report
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The Space luchador
@space-luchadorΒ Β·Β 4:58

@SeekingPlumb

So he walks and wanders around and he happens to find the way out of the cave while everybody's mesmerized, right, looking at the flames and the show and thunder and lights and all that. They're getting conned, basically, into believing the reality that they believe in. Anyways, the dude this one guy, and yes, he happens to be a guy, too. It could have been a female, I don't know
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