F-off with your "good news"!
We would describe them in much harsher terms abusive, manipulative, et cetera. And again, in good conscience, if I cannot accept that behavior in humans, then why the f*** would I do it with a deity that is supposed to be so much greater and bigger and everything more than me?
ROBERT BEST
@ShamanicPoet · 4:48
I was sort of amused, but I was really quite startled because I gave her permission to sit down and talk to me. I didn't give her permission to stop berating me. For the most part, I just kind of took it. Every now and again, I would quietly challenge something that said that there are a lot of belief systems. There are at least three Abrahamic religions on the planet, there are a lot of individual beliefs
I listened to your swell when I woke up this morning and I was struck with two different ideas or two different thoughts. Immediately. Memories, I guess. The first one was when my parents had me go talk to our minister, use that term him loosely whenever I was coming out, so that he could walk me through the graveyard and point at the grave of the man who had died from AIDS. Basically warning me that this way of life was unsustainable and the emotional trauma that stems from that
But even in that moment, I did not feel that it was my place to Evangelize, to them about my nonbelief, because they believed so strongly and it gave them so much hope and how they lived their final years. Because I knew they were getting older and they were looking forward to going home, to being with their Heavenly Father, quote, unquote
If she wants to believe that she's doing the Lord's work to go be with him when she passes, then who am I to mess that up for her? If we were friends and we were on the same age and she had a little bit more time, I'd be like, hey, do you want to think about this a little bit more? But yeah, I have made my bed and I must sleep in it
I am feeling a lot of emotions right now after your reply, partly because it taps into some of my past as well, and partly because it's extremely disappointing and demoralizing and upsetting to continually be reminded of. When I was a believer, for whatever reason, I believed that Christians, as much as they spoke about love, really were about love. And outside of it now I see that I haven't seen evidence of that to be true
Everything that I look at, there's, like, these processes I go through of either trying to spot the patterns and the systems and how they work out, and then, okay, well, how can I deconstruct it to learn more about it? Okay, let's put it back together again. Well, how could I use this if I want to create a system? It's system, system, systems
The constant doubt and questioning. I don't know if you still have that or not, but I know I do because I'm still in the thick of it. But yeah, I know what you mean. Also about through deconstruction, leaving the church and changing your views that my heart has expanded tenfold in understanding more people and being more representative and appreciative and respectful of everyone. And I'm like that's interesting because as a Christina, it was very on the path, like closed minded
But if I think of my way of relating to other humans, perceiving other humans, embracing and loving other humans is somehow more than this deity that is supposed to be infinitely more than me in every single capacity. That's where it breaks down. So if he does exist, I can't because I think that there is more to love than what I have seen, what I have read about
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 0:43
I hear you. I hear this. I mean I don't understand this obsession followers of organized religion have with getting people to this is classic projection. In my opinion that their faith they have within their heart is so impure that they need others to validate it. That's precisely what they are doing. They are looking for validation for their religious decisions by bringing others into the light. Look at this amazing decision I've made for my life
Karan Sharma
@karan555 · 0:19
Your voice is so nice that it keeps me listening to you all the time. What's your name? And if I can come with a podcast to your channel?
I had not thought of it that way. With respect to the lizard brain and projection, I think I'm still looking at it from the perspective of being inside the belief system and those scriptures or the ideas that are a part of the beliefs and winning people. For Christ or quote unquote saving people for Christ or being fishers of men and all these other sorts of things and then being on the receiving end of it backswood so they must bring me back into the fold and that sort of binary perspective
Thank you. I've had people say nice things to me about my voice before, but I can't say that I've ever heard it after. I've been very angry and ranting. So thank you for listening to my rant. And I'm not sure how to answer your other question, but if you tap on my face, you will be taken to my profile, and it may give you more information there that you are perhaps looking for. Bye
So I went to meet with him and my mom and have lunch with them after they went and just talk about what comes next. We were barely speaking, some text here and there, a phone call on birthdays and such before the death of my daughter. We have definitely made progress in our relationship. I had to set some boundaries years ago and stopped going home because I was and my children, more importantly, were continually forced fed that we needed to change and that we needed to convert
Wow. I'm sorry to hear about your dad. But I'm I guess happy that you have reconnected, that there's potential healing. Maybe that's coming in the works. You have a lot, a lot on your plate this season. Just seems thinking of you. The statement you said there at the end, if there's any truth, man is really f****** it up
J.L. Beasley
@Her_Sisu · 4:56
Anyway, so I titled my response The Gum. My brother was dating this girl. They ended up being married. There is so much to that that's a swell for another day that he and I both have had two marriages. But anyway, so he married this girl and they were dating, though, at this point
I think sometimes maybe people get so wrapped up in the shoulds or shouldn'ts or rights and wrongs that they don't stop to question, does this really matter? Would God really care? Oh, my goodness. Thank you. Thank you for that
People often will ask what caused you to stop believing? What was the big event? Because they think there's some way that they can somehow counter it or offer a different perspective to bring me back into the fold. And when I tell them that it was rereading scriptures, that is not something that they're expecting. And yeah, the books and the history of who actually wrote them and the copy of the copy of the copy and translation of a translation of a translation
And when I see the human influence on this holy, quote unquote holy Scriptures and I can figure out or at least imagine how some of these things were done in order to influence people, and even the math from it, and I've included a link above there's so much human ones here that it's hard to perceive it any other way. And yeah, I can't ever see myself going back to Christianity, but I'm not going to say never because who knows?