And also to hear about the many failures he had. And he said even after his success with that advertising company, he continued to have more and more failures. And he said, for every great success you'll have, there's going to be a lot and a lot of failures, obviously, that's a little bit of, like, a corny thing to say. But it's true. It's true. And he's like a walking, living example of that
And for me, personally, when I was applying to College, I had such a clear vision of what I wanted in life and exactly what I wanted to do and where I wanted to go to school. And then the pandemic happened. And it really taught me that no matter how much you plan, things may change and may go in a different direction. And now I'm kind of trying to live by this motto of just taking it one step at a time