Good morning. This is Penelope here at the V Book House, Continuing our reading of Anamkara. But we may be doing things a little differently moving forward. And so I'm going to pose this question and then read part of the text for those of you who may have been following along with this particular reading. So in Celtic tradition, Celtic spirituality, there is this question about the Invisible and the Visible. Are they one, and what is the perspective there?