But anyhow, it isn't that I don't think atheism shouldn't exist, but my question really is around it is because one thing I noticed with atheism, and not all atheists are like this, but there's an explanation for everything. And there's no magic in life for a number of people because everything can be explained right through science and there's no magic. It's just like you live, you die. There's a reason for everything
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@homosanity · 3:49
And when I say whack a mole Christian, that I figured everything out about God, or that I would say that my way is the only way kind of thing, right? But that's my faith route. I would not say that I figured God out when I was a fundamentalist Christian. I felt I knew that I knew that I knew what God was about. But I got a wake up call when I became gay and couldn't straighten that out
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 3:49
But I find it interesting that atheism are the ones who ruin things for everyone. I myself am an agnostic, but I know plenty of atheists that are very magical in the way they think. Magical romantic everything under the sun. But again, it's probably dangerous to say that you went to a group with atheism and therefore you know how atheism think, because one atheist is not like the other. They are all different people, right?
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
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@homosanity · 4:57
I use that title to get people in. But just because, you know, the mechanics of something doesn't mean magic. The of life doesn't have to exist. And that's really what I'm getting at. And there's so many people that do seem to, and I agree with you, probably not all Atheism are like that, but just what I'm saying is my experience has been, by and large, that way
Mahima Mamgain
@MM007 · 1:14
It's intriguing to know that how fine tuned the universe is to deliver us life, otherwise we wouldn't have existed. So I also want to attach a link to as well, which I recently posted and I'd like to hear your thoughts and continuation to this interesting topic and reality of life. Thanks and have a blessed day
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 2:16
Everyone wants to be a part of a niche and et cetera and et cetera. But there are people like you out there that will remind us of the magic and that not only it exists, but it is something that people have intentionally refused to believe exist. Thank you so much for what you do out here, and I look forward to hearing your next swells
They feel like there are enough answers that have been given to us about mortality, that the idea of this sort of ethereal plane of God, of heaven, of hell, becomes kind of insignificant to them. And for me, I think that especially looking around at the world and all of the different religions and belief systems that there are, I studied religion very, very heavily in my undergrad. I kind of arrived at the conclusion that belief can be both a good and a bad thing
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@homosanity · 4:53
I think it was to prepare me for the hell that was to come in my life. And I think unless you go through the dark soul what do they call it, the dark night of the soul. It's hard to understand that. And in my life, it's been dark night of the soul probably every two years. I don't know, it's been rough and you see things a little differently and it's kind of like when what is it?
The idea of, I guess I would say perspective of what is magic all depends on how someone defines magic. Right? Because you talked about the example of technology. Obviously those who build the technology have an understanding of it, but for the asleep persons we may not
The only thing I would add to the observations that you made about me is I am curious and I do have these questions, but I don't have the questions about do those things I wonder about lead to a God? I don't have questions about finding if there is or isn't a God. That's not to say at some point I couldn't end up believing again, maybe in a different way than I once did because you never know
Oh, no worries. I didn't think you were trying to convert me or anything like that. It is interesting because I hadn't I guess I don't frame it the same way of it being a spiritual journey, but I can see what you're saying. I can see what you're saying. And I have also enjoyed the
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@homosanity · 5:00
You. Hi. I really liked your response. It's very deep and I appreciate I guess I could say I appreciate your quote, framing and perspective. Very interesting way of looking at it and appreciate it. Another guy spoke to this too. There's different ways of looking at it, right? From either side of the coin where people can be stuck, right. And where they're not really open to the idea of a magical, wonderful universe or God or what have you
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@homosanity · 3:46
You continuing on. When I was very young, my grandfather died. I was doing some painting, and all of a sudden I felt these arms reach around me and this love fill my body. And these words came into my mind that said, your grandfather's okay it. And these tears just came to my eyes. I would call that magic experiences like that. Wonder is when I walk into the woods and I come face to face with a dough and look into the dough's eyes
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@homosanity · 3:38
I would love to hear more people who are atheism straight out atheism respond because I wonder if they feel the same way because I've not heard that before come from an atheist. It's pretty kind of like you live, you die, we're particles when it comes down to it. So it's just pretty dismissive. So so yeah, but I'm open to discussion and hearing other people's points of views and not generalizing anybody. So that's not my intent, but yes
So, for example, there are some that will be very angry about structure or rigidity or binary perspectives, but then they come to atheism or that state of non belief and recreate the rigidity and the binary perspectives that they were angry about. And for some people, they move past that through that pain, that bitterness, but sometimes they don't. For myself, I definitely went through that period
Jeremiah Myer
@Jeremiah73 · 4:52
There is no reason in my mind that the gods, that the divine haven't used science, evolution, physics, on and on all of the scientific things to create, to make this creation. So I think they're compatible. And then that both the fundamentalist Christians and whatnot on one hand who try desperately to explain why dinosaurs and people are only 5000 years old and and then atheism who are trying to say that there is no God, I think they're both wrong
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@homosanity · 4:49
But you came to that without any kind of slap in the face like that. So I just kind of admire your journey and your realizations more than my own. And I don't know, it's so funny. I don't know that anybody can come to that awakening, especially on the religious side, unless they do have something earth shattering where things no longer work
And at some point, you start to believe the contortions you've put yourself into as being, quote unquote, real. It was like when you start to allow yourself to ask questions, then some of these things begin to dissolve away and you start to reveal more of what's really there. And so part of that process was, I was told marriage is for life. And I believed that, but not everybody else does. My partner didn't
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@homosanity · 1:03
It. Wow. Thanks for sharing that. That was so vulnerable. All that you shared, I'm blown away, not only because of all that you shared, but I also came out at 39, and I relate to a lot of what you shared as far as your faith walk and where you went through with it. So that really made me feel a lot better. And your encouragement around that very interesting
In ancient Greece, you had philosophers like Epicurus and Democritus who started expressing ideas that differed from the religious, traditional, fundamental beliefs of their culture. And so because of that, they were considered anarchists, provocative. They were coined with this term atheist as really just to show that they were other than everybody else during that time
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@homosanity · 4:15
I don't really fit into organized religion at all anymore, so I don't identify with what they would call denominations. I really don't go to church much at all because I just don't fit there right now. So. Yeah, but I like what you said. And I loved how you said about being a mother and being a yogi and not like saying that everybody has to be that way