We had a great conversation about just learning to be content and not having to have so many different income streams. And also the fact that you don't have to turn every hobby into something that becomes profitable because that can cause burnout too. And so a perfect example of this is someone who I used to follow in 2009, 2010. Her name is Katie Fryling and I always looked up to her because I do affiliate marketing sometimes. But she was one of those go getters