It is similar in my eyes. It is similar to celebrating your birthday. You are born, you are happily living your life. But one day you celebrate it right with your friends. It gives you an opportunity to have a gathering with your friends and chill. So yeah, this was my take on it. I would like to know your perspectives. Even if you don't agree with me. I always welcome disagreements, not an issue
Adarsh Rai
@TheDevilsHorse · 5:00
At this point of time, if you go talk to students I speak to so many students, so many people across the world and the kind of messages I have in my inboxes and I have seen people cry during interviews. People are depressed, people are going through difficult times. Specifically students. They do not have folks they can talk to at times. A recent survey recently suggested that the rate of suicide has increased in the folks who are appearing from IITs and GE
Kaveri Bhatt
@kaveri_bhatt · 3:14
Because I do agree that in India we believe in bonds and we are very sentimental about our bonds. We don't need Mother's Day to celebrate our mother. That's right. And it goes for even celebrating love on Valentine's Day. But yes, I agree
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 3:57
A person who's battling with deepest, darkest emotions finds it difficult to even get up from the bed every morning, let alone having this curiosity that this guy was talking about. It was infuriating, especially coming from a guy who heads a psychology department in a state university where thousands of children study. And what kind of examples are these people setting in front of the students? People like him make the victims feel bad, and that is the worst thing that you can do
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 1:52
I agree that every culture has their own set of problems. I'm not shying away from admitting that. But the point is that he completely deviated from the point he was there to discuss about mental health, and he said he would be telling us how to practically adopt certain practices to ensure mental health. And first of all, I did not like that he brought this familial angle to it and the cultural angle to it. I mean, yes, every society has their own sets of issues, right?
Kaveri Bhatt
@kaveri_bhatt · 0:51
That is true. Because when we go to attend a lecture or a seminar, we expect the topic to be constant, consistent, so that we know what it is going to be, where we are going to grow our new neural pathways. So I understand that. I respect that. I was only as you said, I was only talking about the opinion which he had placed. That why they celebrate it once a year and why we don't do it somewhere or the other
They are available to work at any point of time, at any pay grade, at any level of work that is given to them, as long as it is a job. And because of that, most companies in US and UK today prefer people from India, people from Pakistan, people from these countries for the remote work for the remote jobs because that saves millions of dollars to them every year. Right? And that is the reason Indian people are more preferred
They are not bothered about it. That generation itself has to take care of itself. So I am not sure on what standards of mental wellness we are talking about. Of course there is going to be that kind of a problem if that familial bonding is missing. Also there is a trend of replication between US and India. And that trend of replication is about 2025 years. So if you notice go backwards about 50 years of time, you will realize that whatever has been done in US
And it is important to understand how we represent ourselves. Not at a local level anymore. It has to be at a global level. There was a time when India continued to be an emerging country and it would have continued to be an emerging country unless and until we went out globally and showed to people what we are capable of. But soon enough, we will declare ourselves as a developed country. No more emerging country. Right? And our standards of wellness will be much better than anybody else
Aishani Chatterjee
@Aishani · 4:57
That's almost like turning a blind eye to the masses in the east who every single day are struggling with their mental health. And I don't think there can be a comparison like that. And if we really are actually looking at statistics, I'm sure the statistics won't say so, that people in India suffer from aren't as prone to suffering from mental health issues as people in the US
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 1:28
There are so many issues, and they need to be nuanced, and the discussion needs to be nuanced. You cannot just create stereotypes and just randomly say a monologue and based on certain assumptions and prejudices, you cannot just do that. I personally found it extremely unwarranted and frustrating, as you said. Yes. The professor level guy who's HOD of a department in a state university, a career psychologist. I mean, that was disappointing. So, yeah. Thank you
Gunjan Joshi
@Bibliophile · 5:00
Evening. Himanshi your talk about east versus west was very thoughtful and I would also like to present my views here. I would like to confess that I do not agree with learn professor at all. I do not think that if a culture celebrates Mother's Day or Father's Day or Valentine's Day, that culture is really superficial or parochial. And if a culture has very strong spiritual inheritance, such as in Eastern countries like in India, China and Japan, those cultures are really great holistically
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 3:39
I mean, in this particular discussion of mental health, that point was, according to me, uncalled for. But, yeah, thank you. Thank you for enlightening us all, all the listeners here on Swell regarding your perspective and so much of information and wisdom that you always bring in your replies and Swells. So. Thank you, Rajat. I hope you have a great week ahead. Take care, and I'll see you around
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 0:23
Yeah, absolutely. Kaberi and thank you for replying again, and I absolutely adore your positive outlook. And, yes, that is what we should focus upon. On the bright side. On the positive side. So, yeah, thank you, and I hope you have a great week ahead. Take care
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 1:57
Thank you so much for gracing my swell with your reply and with such a wonderful insight that you brought into this conversation, thus enriching it. Thank you. Vanjan
And as you said, this comparison is completely shallow, and I also wouldn't agree with any point that is mentioned in this particular comparison. And first of all, once again, I would like to thank you for raising your concern and putting forward your opinion and letting us all know about this comparison, which was made so that we can also put our points forward and resonate our own opinions. Thank you. Himanshi
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 1:21
Hi, Gauri. Thank you for reply. And I agree with you. I mean, it's okay to analyze various cultures across the globe and recognize the positives and negatives and discuss on how to improve upon negatives. But here, in the discussion of mental health, generalizing stereotyping it at all was absolutely uncalled for. And I take pride in our culture, like in the Indian culture, I take a lot of pride in it. But I don't shy away from admitting the problems that we have
Like, everybody thinks their own culture is the best culture. Not everybody, but you know what I mean? So I think we need to be very careful when we're talking about mental health and making blanket assumptions, using culture especially. So anyway, dude, those are my two cent and it got me all fired up early in the morning and yeah, I guess this is how we learn, right? Like, this is how we learn about what's happening in the world
Himanshi Thakur
@GreyMatter · 2:58
It riled me up too. That is the reason why I posted this well in the first place, because it's annoying, especially coming from a person who is a career teacher of psychology in a state university. Yes, and so many stereotypes, prejudices, blanket assumptions, as you mentioned, all these were at work and I will tell you about it in detail the kind of even the things that he came up with. So he initially said that he would help us keep our mental health