You. When you tend to think of science in this modern day and age, you tend to associate it with truth, with facts. It's almost become a religion of sorts. And actually, in fact, there is a term for people that tend to view science as a belief. I actually can remember one time I made a post about this where someone said, I believe in science. And I thought that was such an interesting approach to science. For science doesn't believe in you
He's taking science selectively and piecing together just the right pieces to come to the conclusion that he wants to come to. But he's throwing out a bunch of other aspects of science and saying, these don't support
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:49
Because once you start to think, well, there's tangible evidence to support my beliefs, therefore they are stronger than yours. That's where you lose the concept of beliefs entirely. So, yes, I can remember having many debates and arguments about science, but as you stated in that big elephant thing, the example, philosophy serves as this piece, and religion serves as that piece
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
But I've listened to a video somebody sent me recently. Bobby Azerian, I guess, is a scientist and a journalist, and I only listened to about 50 minutes. Oh, I said this already. Never mind. But it's the same kind of thing. I don't know. How can you convince anybody else if you're hanging out in one area of that continuum or you're dismissing significant pieces of frameworks? Right
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:46
And maybe they have discovered it via a YouTuber or social media influencer because it's a different spectrum of information that you can take from, so to speak, when you are taking from the words of someone who has read other words right, it comes out in a sort of parroted way
Thank you. Enos believe that we are all scientists. We all try to explain what we cannot understand. We try to find a way to make sense of it out of our own curiosity. We can come up with these theories in the hopes that we can find some truth. You know, it's crazy. A lot of scientists, right? You know, they can publish some, you know oh, God, what was it?
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:01
You. Thank you, Omega Strange, for taking the time to respond to this well cast where we ask, should there be belief in science? And you were of the guy said, we are all scientists. That's interesting. To some degree, there's truth to that. In a matter of with all of us, we have the capabilities of a certain aspect of intelligence that does ponder beyond what is evident. What is evident is not really evident
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:57
It's. Thank you so much, singing Sense, for responding to this. Well cast where we ask about belief in science or scientism. Probably should have called it that, but it does stand to concern and reason for me that those that tout stats and statistics and scientists scientific evidence to back up their opinions. It makes me a bit concerned, for they could be inappropriately using science to justify their own means. They come out like a James Bond villain, right?
But if you have to explain it in different ways to somebody that's either a different age or something like that, then you really have to know it to be able to explain it in different ways. I think you're right. We all piece things together in our own ways, whether it's spirituality, religion, fandom science, et cetera
The moon's up there too, so it should be obvious that this is probably round too. And plus, people wrote about it. They knew the Earth was round. But throughout history, scientists have said some crazy things and been proven wrong. That's the way science is supposed to work. The other thing science is you have to be able science is things that you can study, test and demonstrate
But it's a super racist theory and it does nothing for science and it's not provable. And there's a lot of places in there where there's some big problems, but people believe this and they grow up believing this, and they have the wrong idea about some of these things. I'm running out of time. It
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:46
Fateslicer. 815 thank you for taking the time to respond to this well cast where we ask belief in science. And you seem to be aware of the idea that many can buy into quote unquote science for their own gains in monetary value in the name of capitalism. In the medical field, it can be very tricky and dicey with which we are talking about applied sciences or just salesmen tactics via drugs
He is talking more in the direction of things that I believe to be true. So, yeah, I guess it could be confirmational bias. He doesn't have it all right, in my opinion, in my belief system, but he's going down the right track. And what's funny is, as time goes on, he keeps getting proven right, because scientists, they have an idea. They're looking for confirmational bias, too
But if you come at it from a bunch of different angles, specifically on the opioid crisis, there is no other way to look at it than there are doctors that are walking around today that are complete criminals. And those are the ones that got caught. Those are not the ones that didn't get caught. You have somebody like Dr. Death go watch or go listen to the Dr. Death podcast. Actually, they made a hulu series about Dr. Death
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:40
But because it was so lucrative, it was worth the profit. That's a different discussion for me than what we're talking about belief. We're talking about belief in science to such an extent that you feel it's right. And furthermore, I actually believe a part of your belief system is deeply rooted in stuff that can be proven to reinstate your point of view, which kind of ties into this idea of scientism. But you seem to be sound in judgment
Tanya Coles
@MsColes77 · 2:39
The problem is the science continued to change as we came into more knowledge and as the situation evolved and as the previous science proved to be false in some ways, the science continued to change. And so we couldn't really follow the science because there were no absolutes. Like you said, it's just facts
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:55
You don't hear that in the movies, but in real life we're arguing over toilet paper. So it's interesting when we say things like trust the science. It's almost exactly what is not scientific at all is trusting it. But invariably, as humans, we have to rationalize and make sense of this thing as best as we know how in relation to us when and science at its best is something regardless of any belief or whatever nationality or gender, you can understand
It was tuberculosis. It was just misdiagnosed diagnosed as a flu. And yeah, it killed a lot of people, if I remember correctly, it was tuberculosis. I could be wrong on that, but it was not a flu. But yeah, love the conversation. It's crazy world we live in. Hopefully those that are responsible for what they did, they get their just dues. They won't, but they should. Anyways, have a good night everybody
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:59
That's part of the privilege of, I guess, this modern society that we live in is that there are people out there who do that sort of stuff for us, but then there can run a problem to which maybe we have this built in system of belief that can it always, in a way like we question things. We question things through this belief system. So if we thought science was told the truth, we probably would have stopped evolving with science a long time ago, right?