Even like, dude, no black dudes normally in their show. But when all of a sudden when it's a thug or somebody's going to Rob you, they have to be black. You get what I'm saying. That's incoherently racist because it gives you stereotypes. You know what I'm saying? And all of our shows literally do that. And it's just annoying to see this s*** because I look at every show and I can literally see it
And this is the X Men, right. So I don't know. I feel like Marvel's not necessarily been very good at being as progressive as they can. I also saw this post on Twitter recently that made me think and I thought it was very odd. It basically said that in the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies, there isn't a prominent black character who isn't either a current or former military member or part of a monarchy
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 2:25
So it's the same thing we just miscommunicate, like, we don't have role models to look up to, like, even Black Lightning. I don't even like the fact that he's called Black Lightning. I feel like that's racist in itself. And then to see the show, Black Lightning is back. I'm like, dude, they had to put a rap in the beginning of it. That's what it is, man. Well, that wasn't Marvel
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Matt Powell
@MattP598 · 2:05
But it's probably better off having the basketball player role model than the superhero anyway, because it's kind of unattainable, I think anyway, but, yeah, just my two cent on it. I think they're going to do what they're going to do to make money. And I think that's their number one goal in everything. Everything got millions of dollars online. And I think now it's starting to become more popular in every community, superheroes comics and things like that
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 2:18
And it's like, Adams, you are saying only one of us is good enough to be out there. So like I said, man, it's been on the phone for a long time. Pretty much, man. I love comics, bro. I've been on comics books since I was a kid. My dad had stacks on stacks and stacks of comics collecting them and stuff
Matt Powell
@MattP598 · 2:50
I don't think it was really cool to read comic books or anything like that. You're kind of considered an outcast a little bit, a little bit of a nerd, but that's kind of changed now. That's cool. Like Dragon Ball Z. That wasn't even a thing back in the day, but I think it's starting to correct itself a little bit
Evo brings up a really great point. I think it's important to put this into historical context. One of the reasons there's not a lot of black heroes is because the writers of those heroes were not black. I mean, the majority of the popular superheroes that we're talking about, Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Iron Man. All these characters were created a very long time ago, 50s, 60s, when the majority of people involved in publications and press and media were white men
Matt Powell
@MattP598 · 3:01
I think if someone thought that was going to make money, I think they would have published it and made those characters. I don't see how two white guys making a black hero is racist seemed like the opposite of racism. But like I said, I don't know the answer to the question about whether there was really that many people black people like making comics, making comic book characters. I'm kind of the opinion that there wasn't back in the day. I'm not talking about recent
So pretty much everything was societally put in place to benefit white people over everybody else. I mean, that's not really an opinion that's just kind of the way that it was. But please read this article. It's really interesting and kind of just like shed some light on the lack of black characters, black writers, black voices during the dawn of comic book writing
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 4:14
And like I said, black people, period, when we first started even drawing income because we were always a sidekick and we were stereotyped as ghetto or type of way. And a lot of the comics were like that. And even Vertigo comics itself faced a little. I want to say racism. It's not really the word I'm looking for, though. They faced a little strong competition for one. But the Static shop did really good. But Icon didn't
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 2:52
That's why they initially sold off Spiderman in Daredevil and all of them initially because they weren't doing good. So they made a black hero. And guess what we did. We flocked and seen it. We all went to scene. I seen it. The black community loves Blade. What? So when that happened, they said, oh, we backyard. We back back and he turned them around. But it's crazy because again, look at the writers