@splashmango
Juliana Loh
@splashmango · 4:51

Change the word ‘Toxic’ masculinity?

And they said growing up, it's tough identifying as a man in certain areas of the world, especially in traditional areas such as Asia, China, Sri Lanka, well, high friends in Sri Lanka, but India and United States even. And so there's a sense of confusion as to what is a man then. Because if toxic masculinity identifies traits that are not that great in a man, then what are the traits that are?

#wellbeing #culture

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@SeekingPlumb

@splashmango The seething machine, denying portions of our humanity. The internal vs external. The individual vs the many.

And word toxic masculinity descriptor points to the acuteness of it, but really, I think that it's the overall ideas that society and the individuals have attached to gender. If we could move the conversation to be about what it means to be human, but it's such a big, huge, complex, complicated machine that I think moves slower than molasses to move it out of that space into what it means to be human. I don't know what that looks like
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@zejacques
Jack .
@zejacques · 4:09
I was struggling because everything I thought of, I was like, is that not actually just a function of the patriarch and toxic masculinity kind of like informing the way that the feminine should act? Like, I was thinking of high school drama at a girl school, or just like girls, women, in the workforce, like, being dramatic in the same way that a group of men could be, like, stupid or rude. But then I was like, why do they act that way?
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@SeekingPlumb

@zejacques @splashmango

Um, you know, on the one hand, I really want to be empathetic and understanding of individuals like the men that are being described in that I can understand what it's like to be stuck under a particular label without actually being seen. Right. And I know how damaging that can feel. But that can also put us on a back foot where we feel like we have to defend ourselves. And from that position, it's like the cornered animal that is not about being receptive
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@splashmango
Juliana Loh
@splashmango · 4:15
So I really, really appreciate what you all have had to say, and I'm thanking you so much. And I hope at some point that we'll be able to come to a reality that suits us all, where we're just humans sharing female and male traits together and having not to polarize ourselves against that kind of gendered nuance. That's all I can say. Thank you
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@zejacques
Jack .
@zejacques · 1:40
But it just made me think around that need to defend, that need to maybe not be right, but that need to not be wrong, even if it's not your fault, even if it's just something you've done that you've been taught or don't even understand. So I found that really interesting. And, Juliana, I really would love to hear the perspective of some non binary or trans folk
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@lwatsonjr
Lance Watson
@lwatsonjr · 3:26

@splashmango

For example, let's say if I'm fasting from social media, social media inherently is not toxic, but for me, it represents something toxic, something unhealthy. I will agree with you completely that there is a need to further examine this by definition, but then also to continue the dialogue. I'm absolutely loving the responses and replies that we've heard on this particular swell cast. And so, again, I thank you for the space
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@Swell
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15

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@prisha198
prisha k
@prisha198 · 0:03
I love the way you thought about your perspective
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@katiecal
Katie Callahan
@katiecal · 4:46
And that can be in the context of a lot of different things versus women as the more submissive, nurturing or weaker kind of way, which, again, can be used in a lot of different contexts. But I think it's just frustrating now in modern times where we're trying to kind of break that gender role kind of thing, especially with people who don't identify as either gender or identify different than what their biological gender is
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@Bendi_G
Benedict Garrett
@Bendi_G · 3:36

@katiecal

So then, as we as individuals do, we not need to be conscious about how our behavior impacts on those around us and then, of course, on society at large. The idea of word toxic masculinity mean in Britain there's very much this lady culture, that's lady culture and the effect that that has on sort of gang culture and violence and yes, of course, behaviors towards women and abuse that many people suffer as a result of this word toxic masculinity
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@sukirti666
sukirti chand
@sukirti666 · 0:01

Well done

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