But what is new in this development is that approximately 200 witnesses were interviewed by the House committee, and they're all former Trump officials who voluntarily came forward to talk about this. So I'm wondering and I want you to answer is, why do you think these people came forward? Do you think it's because they fully believe that they didn't do anything wrong?
Hey, Lila, interesting question. I think it's probably a little bit of both to be honest with you. And I know that's kind of a cop out answer, but I think there is such a thing as sort of trying to save face and also cover your b***, if that makes sense, do you think that there's just a general level of cooperation here, like doing what you're supposed to do because you hold office somewhere and this is what's expected of you