And that is, I think, what we felt and especially the most trying times when Covid hit us, I think we were able to approach a lot of, I mean, I would say the crisis with a sense of calm. And that's when the second door opened, which is towards knowledge and perhaps following Gurudev Shri Ravishankar on multiple channels and getting to know his philosophy, and then slowly sort of being able to align with a lot of things, he said