He's definitely one of the greatest NBA centers ever to play. And then you get a bunch of guys around him that just did not and never did have that fire, that zest to win the way you want a player to do these guys. First of all, he had Markel Fultz. Now, Markel, folks, is still in the league. He's on the bench. He probably gets maybe six or seven minutes, no more than ten minutes a game