I thought for some strange reason and I might be wrong but don't all human lives matter too
Shani Banshee
@shanibanshee · 2:48
And so I think that is a good way of saying that it's like, yeah, definitely. All lives matter. Nobody's saying that they don't. But in particular, there's 400 years of really problematic structural and systemic racism that has been enacted and is still getting enacted by people's biases and realistically, just wars on entire generations of black workers, black families
Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 1:17
And I'm going to link an article here that is by no means the best reference point, but it's a pretty simple one and a quick read. And so I just wanted to post it here because I hear that question in your Swell, and I think an article like this is a good starting point and kind of builds on what Shawnee Banshee mentioned as well. And so if you have a chance to read that, it might be a good foundation for us to continue the discussion
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 3:25
Are you happy? Are you happy now? No, we're not. No, we don't want a little symbolic gesture. We want real change and we're going to get it one way or another. It's going to happen. That's just history. I've read a lot of history, and that's just the way things happen in the real world. Sorry to say
liqea Hill
@LIQUEAHILL · 1:24
So that's why we stand for Black Lives Matter. It's not that we look at anybody else different. No, it's not that it's that we're the most targeted people in the community and around the world, period. We're known to be the most aggressive, the most violent people. So it's really not about white, black, yellow, green, wherever or whatever religion you are. We're just mostly the target for police
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 0:57
If I could let me just give a brief example and please excuse the language for those that don't like cursing. But I have a question for all those people out there who were react so emotionally when someone says Black liveswtf matter, first thing they have to say is all lives matter. I have a question when white people say, Save the whales. Are they saying, F*** all the other fish? No, they're not. They're just saying the whales need savings
Reisha Youseeme
@bossyreisha · 0:49
But obviously George Floyd's life didn't matter to white America. So for you guys to say that all lives matter, it's a slap in the face. It's like saying to the cause
Reisha Youseeme
@bossyreisha · 0:08
And if all lives truly matter, the phrase Black lives matter wouldn't bother you guys so much
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:35
So all of that stuff they did while they were here, it didn't matter. The only thing that matters is, why did you kill him? Why did you put your foot on his neck? Why did you have your knee on his neck? We're not talking about black people killing black people right now. Black lives matter is not for that. And again, I'll say once more, it's not black on black crime. It's neighbor killing neighbor
Gena Delgado
@genadelgado · 3:20
First, let me clear the record and make things known and make it straight. When I said, don't all lives matter, I should have elaborated on it first and foremost do understand the whole statement of Black lives matter. And just so people understand where I'm coming from, I have black in me or I should say African American, whichever I am Costillium, Spanish, Masculinity and Apache, black and white. So I understand that black liveswtf matter. I get it
York Campbell
@York · 2:48
What about their lives in the past couple of weekends, in different parts of the States? I'm in Canada, by the way. But in different parts of the States, the crime rate skyrocketed. I believe they say that in New York City, the crime rate skyrocketed over 100%. And in those places, it's black on black crimes. It's not the white man going into the area and finding unarmed black people to Hunt and execute and hang from ropes
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 4:53
Okay. So Gena dicado, I know you like to read books, so I'm gonna pull out some books. One book is. So you want want to talk about race? I read this book and I was a lot woke by it because there were things I thought I knew, but I guess I didn't because you bring up the concept of, well, aren't we all human race? Of course, we're all part of the human race
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 1:53
But why are we focusing on just black people and that they matter and with the reparations and stuff? And I'm going to be totally honest with you. I think it's a ploy. Many people don't like Trump. I'm not going to give my opinion, but this is my thought. A lot of people don't like Trump. So what they're trying to do is that a lot of people are trying to get votes
So I don't really think that saying that Black Lives Matter is a smokescreen is entirely accurate. Well, I do think that there are obviously some segments of the media that have been maybe hamming up their disdain for Donald Trump. I think that disdain has existed for a very long time, probably since he became a pretty successful businessman back in the Eighties. I mean, he has a track record of not being a very well liked person
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:08
What I'm saying. It's really odd to hear a black man come on a platform like this and ask the world, why are you talking about black people? As if he has no knowledge of any of the history of not only Blacks in America, but even of his own family and their struggles. So it's that's throwing me off a little bit. It's kind of weird
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 3:54
Do you know how many entertainment things that we have now that was created by the culture? So when we speak about because everybody know that we built America, America was built off the back of the slaves. When you look at into it. And I'm going to correct someone from earlier. They said there's 400 years of slavery. That's incorrect. There was over 200,000 years. I'm not how old. Sorry, I'm sorry about that
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 1:50
And then we have groups like Black Lives Matter and all that's being painted in the street. And to be all inside, that Black Lives Matter is not filled with all black people. And I don't know, I just think there's something fishy going on and no agent. I'm just an American citizen, in my opinion, noticing that things are kind of off
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 2:09
Well, to answer your question, Harvard, it's because it's a Psyop. Alright. So they are inflating Black deaths right now because it affects their agenda. Okay. Now, if you understand this, remember everybody stopped start donating toward Black Lives Matter. All the companies, if by clockwork came out before Black Lives Matter started a while ago, they didn't do it then, but they automatically all did it now like it was some group pressure
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 4:41
There were riots going on. They didn't want Trump into office. So they pulled all sorts of crap to forgo his election. And again, I'm not for or against Trump. I'm just saying this has never happened with any other President that I'm aware of, and I'm 47 years old. This has only happened and Evo your eyes are open
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 5:00
They know that Trump has during his second office run, that he's going to clean some house, and they're all trying to avoid trying to make sure he's not reelected into office. And so what they're doing is they're causing all sorts of chaos, just like with the whole everything being shut down. Okay. And that's what makes me kind of believe that this covert thing is fake. You shut enough businesses down. Who does it all come back to?
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 2:58
So if a person or a group people are going to get mad about what I say about a person that shadow funds the organization that is supposed to be about my people. First of all, why does he need involvement? Why does he even need involvement?
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 1:35
Fantasy is reality and reality is fantasy. What we've been taught is fantasy as h***. And what we don't know what scares us the most is reality. So all this stuff happening right now as a group of people that are enacting every single thing, and when something dies down, when it ain't news and stuff like that no more and people going about their lives and want to get out of this, another thing will happen. That's just what it is
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 4:48
I got cut off. But that is just my opinion. My opinion is that all of this was manufactured and the fact that Poland to Pelosi and everybody else, especially Nutty Nancy, is going over there talking with treating the Asians as if they're important. And really, if the Coronavirus did come from China, why are we going over there and wanting so bad to learn about your culture? Why are we I believe psyop, a lot of this is psyop
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:25
And every black man should feel that way. He should feel that Black Liveswtf Matter because he's black. Okay, now Black Lives Matter as the organization, the movement. It happens in history. All of our organic movements see, the Black Lives Matter concept started organically. You can say it started with the two gay girls. You can say it started with them as far as the organization. But the concept is older than that. They just put it into words. Okay
June Adams
@EvoPodcast · 1:23
Definitely. I was just saying is our numbers are very underported under reported is how many African black liveswtf have died, period, period, man. And even right now, we're focusing on f****** racism. We're not kidding. Missing. You know what I mean? There's kids going missing. People connected to this pedophile stuff right now, in my opinion, over myself. I feel like that's more important. These babies, these babies need to be alive
Larissa Ach
@pdiddy · 3:38
I'm sure people have heard of called I'm Not Racist and it's a great song or rap. I guess that displays both perspectives, both sides of the argument of white versus black. And I think it's really it pauses. A great argument and it's pretty intense, but I think it's worth a listen. And the other one I was going to say was how to Train your Dog for Postracial America
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 4:47
I think that the news media like CNN and MSNBC who are ushering all this garbage listen to Don Lennon. Oh, feel sorry for the black person. And I'm not saying that we have not been oppressed. Some of these news media things are over doing it
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 4:17
And I'm not minimizing what that is because that's a serious issue that you brought up. Sex trafficking and all that. That's serious, something that exists at the highest levels. It's allowed to flourish. If we really could just pull back the covers and see who all is involved in that, then it's probably people that we never was thinking a million years would even be associated with. Stuff like that
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 4:56
And I'm not talking so much about Trump, but there is a deep state that are trying to control what is going on, and people don't see that. I see it. I'm awake and they're setting a narrative. They're making the black person look evil. They're dumbing black people down because they want the vote. The Democrats want your vote
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 4:45
It's over and it's coming to an end. And this is part of what you see now. Are there people that are co opting movements and stuff like that in America? Of course there are because we live in a capitalist society. So that's just cause and effect
Jermain Hawver
@Hawver7765 · 3:22
We need to live in 2020, not you don't own anything to me. I don't owe anything to you. You don't have to pay me for what happened years and years ago. I live for now. I live for the future. I don't live in the past. What's going on here? I don't know where all this came from
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:41
Well, again, you are right. Whites have coopted another one of our organic movements. If you have, you have a problem with the Black Lives Matter as an organization. I feel you. But Black Lives Matter as a concept is very much needed. And I know you can't disagree with that because you are a black man