"…There was a quote that I heard from Mike Tyson on the podcast Drink Champs, and he said something that I felt profound. He said he he doesn't want to be great because great people, he's found sometimes aren't always good people. And my mind was blown. If you listen to me enough on Swell, you know that I like to play around with titillating ideas on social norms and things that we consider to be common. And is there nothing more common than everyone wanting to be great?…"