So in theory, if you speak a lot about things that you think, and you phrase it as I think this, or I thought that, there's a good chance that you could favor logic, rationality, a beginning, middle and end versus one who talks about how they feel of things. And they constantly are saying I feel this or I felt that. It could be one that caters a bit more towards emotion, the spectrum of feeling. What can be the problem here?
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 5:00
So it's interesting because it kind of suggests that there isn't as wide a gap or as great a division. There may be a difference in the firing time. Right. I think this thought, because I'm used to working with this logic. Okay, great. How do you feel about it? Whoa, hold on a second. Well, you did feel through it, but you went at it at a different angle
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:45
Arya, thank you, as always, for taking the time not only to listen to the swell, but to also offer an audio response. And indeed, it would be really difficult to evaluate when you are thinking something versus feeling something. And when it comes to decisions we make, no matter how much we think about it, we ultimately have to make a decision on how we feel about it. So one plus one equals two
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 5:00
It's like, that is just the pronouncement. It's messed up. They took whatever they understood of the situation, what they felt against it, and then measured it against whatever cultural script they may have or whatever conditioning, and then they pronounced, that's messed up. Right? But you could take that a step further
Blair Redmond
@blairbearing · 0:36
But anyways, I'm not going to go into that. I just appreciate you starting the conversation. I didn't want to go too far into the rabbit hole. Thank you
Jinx Jones
@RayMoe.Jonesy · 4:48
Even if something comes up that's tried to shake you, it didn't affect you to where, oh, man, I'm having a horrible day now. I think it's subconscious versus conscious mind. And it's crazy that I got as crazy I've seen that because I actually been just yesterday I was just on that. I read something where it was like when you sleep in your mind, your subconscious is always going it's the one really in control
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 1:51
As the hard drive had spoke about, that there's not this huge cavernous void between the two. It merely could be inches apart. And it is within these inches that you will have a difference for one over the other. It's not great, but it is there and is apparent. Much as I am curious about my exploration into feeling, but I always do seem to have a preference for what I think. How about you? What do you feel is your preference?
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:05
It takes a lot more work and it requires a lot more help than you merely needing to convince yourself. And as far as playing the lottery, I understand aspects of synchronicity and manifestation and I don't really think that applies here. What you think or what you feel about the lottery? It's still going to be the lottery either way. And I guess I'm talking more of like an elementary level of foundation within how thoughts and feelings manifest
And at that point, I can either clarify that I knew what they were asking me and was dodging it or voicing it in a different way, or, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I had done that. And so I guess in some ways the conversation comes down to linguistics, right, and communication and how we choose to interpret and respond to certain words and language and the situations and so on
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:42
That's the scary part and I think it takes a bit of self awareness, a bit of disconnecting from conditioning and ways of reacting to things as you were taught and that you learnt on your journey of life to where you can get to a core belief. And I myself, man, I'm still getting to that. I know this belief in some way is reinforcing all those other layers as you had described, but I guess I have to work backward, right?
Jinx Jones
@RayMoe.Jonesy · 4:48
Well, when you go into the fact that if somebody if I'm saying, hey, I'm going to have a good day today, I might be feeling down, you feel me? But that doesn't really mean I'm escaping the reality of what might be actually going on
It's driving me nuts anyway, but with respect to audio books and YouTube videos, there's something to the YouTube, though, in that first it might inspire us to dig deeper into a concept, which is great, but also I think it sort of can offer these snapshots of ideas. Yes, we have to check out whether what they're saying is true. But sometimes a book, it's a lot of information to delve through when all you want is the snippet, right?
Blair Redmond
@blairbearing · 0:31
Down the rabbit hole. My preference would be for how I feel. See, I can live with thinking differently, but I can't live with feeling differently. Like, I'm going to have to sit with the way that I feel long after I've thought about whatever it was that I was thinking about. If that makes any sense
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 1:30
Yo. So, Ray, thanks for getting back to me with the question I asked you. And, yeah, you know, sometimes I can forget that I've been doing this sort of venue of social audio, as we like to call it, for the better part of 25 plus years. So I am used to it by now. But for you, this is new, right?
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 4:12
That's interesting, right, how lazy we become as a society where we need a synopsis of a thing to let us know if it's worth investing time into that thing. It kind of reminds me in Hollywood, they have a lot of those screen, the scripts. They have a lot of assistants that will read the whole script. Then they will pass it to the movie producer. But the movie producer wants a synopsis. He doesn't want the whole script
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 1:05
Blair what an interesting concept. You can live without thinking differently, but you can't live without feeling differently. That's interesting. But I could tell instantly that you were a feeling type just a certain way, a poetic way, and how you not only speak but how you look at things in this idealistic sort of way that to me screams the spectrum of emotion and humanity. And I can appreciate that I'm an aspiring feeler, but I am a primary thinker. That's usually my go to
Blair Redmond
@blairbearing · 0:47
But I think I definitely lean hard on, though, at the end. Okay. So if there's a disconnect between what I'm thinking and what I'm feeling, we're going to go on what I'm feeling. But usually it's like, okay, I feel this. Okay, what do you think? Okay. You know, it's similar, and my thoughts and my feelings might have a debate with each other
And sometimes it's only $10 for like a year or two or three years or something. Anyway, my go to for audiobooks, which means then I sometimes will listen to things that aren't entirely up my alley, but then I might find something there anyway because the library has different selection than maybe Audible or any other website. Anyway, just thought I would mention it to you if that was of interest
Yeah, that makes sense. You try to study the problem to figure out what's causing the problem. Your professor may give you a question to answer, what do you think about this problem? And the student might answer, yeah, the teacher may I lost my train of thought. The student may answer the professor. He may tell the professor that, well, I feel that the problem
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 4:00
And they say that the biggest problems often have simple solutions, and the solution often comes down to shifting a belief. Not even changing or taking it out, just shifting it and to shift a belief, you have to go into what you think about something as well as what you feel about it. So very interesting what this conversation is uncovering, at least in being able to observe all these different perspectives
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 2:55
You can feel that's true based upon your experience, and you can also think it's true because, you know, you just put up two fingers. One, one, two. There you go. But it gets a bit more complicated when, let's say, for instance, in a relationship, when you are united with someone, are you all two people or are you one? It can be a little more complicated to explain, right?
Dewuan .
@FryedOreo · 2:24
And I think also we have to constantly reevaluate what thinking and feeling means, because, yes, on the paper we can get these definitions and examples. But it's through your life experience that is the most prominent and important to you. But also the experience of others can enlighten you on perhaps new ways of approaching feeling and thinking
Arya Sunyata
@theheartdrive · 4:57
If you're considerate of how someone is going to feel about something, then it makes it easier to transact whatever it is you're trying to make happen, right? So if you're hosting a dinner and you come in all formulaic, that could work. Or you could even just take into account, oh, this person likes to have this kind of drink, that person likes to have that kind of food