Three Rings of Grief
Yet it's equally probably number two as what people oftentimes experience in life. And the third form or ring of grief, which I experienced at the end of this very short, brief period of time in life was that of a prepared death. When you know someone is going to die, they're on their deathbed, you know that their days are dwindling, their flame is dying slowly. And you get to have those closure moments and those moments of confession and just heartfelt connection
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:30
But also we want to be in it only because it's the one thing that's constant. It's loss. Loss is constant. And some people have really blessed lives where they don't have that sense of grief until the very end of their life. But most people experience grief throughout their life. I was just hearing somebody talk about the concept of I think it's called environmental grief
J.L. Beasley
@Her_Sisu · 4:55
You're going to feel all of those feelings and growth through those same things, but it's even more painful because you know that there's a potential that you can come across this person again or run into them again. So that's a whole different type of grieving and way of grieving or not type of grieving, but just intensity of it because it is like, in a way, no closure. And then I've been blessed to meet someone who gave me another different perspective
We're experiencing a traumatic death. Even if it's known, is what I'm getting at. Even if it's known decline, I think it still comes to a point where it just sucks. It's so traumatizing and then you're also experiencing the death, but still here. But yeah, it's just super convoluted and very, I can imagine, tricky
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Sean O’Dwyer
@TotalCatskills · 1:44
There the expectation of your own demise, your own ending. So that's definitely on my mind too, those four different kinds of grief. And I'm wondering what I wanted to ask was, I think the timestamp on this is about three months ago, and I'm wondering how you feel about it now. Those thoughts that you had three months ago, that's how you felt then. Has anything changed since then? These things tend to develop over time
You're. Thank you for sharing that. It really helped to give insight into, or rather just to think about those three forms of death. And I like the fact that you pointed out the second one was the death of a relationship. And I think that one, like you said, it probably stings the most and it's probably the one that is going to take longer to process than the other two, in my opinion
So essentially, some of the things that were curious to me that hurt me, that I wanted to know, she refuses to discuss. So she has chosen to die with these secrets. So I don't know if that's a fourth ring of grief is having to grieve, not knowing what you could have known before the person has died
And that in and of itself can be an ongoing sense of grief. The prepared death is also, I would say, relatively easy to deal with because, you know, it's coming. Right. And I had experience with something like that where my father, this was about seven years ago, had open heart surgery, and I knew deep down inside that he wasn't going to make it
Shawn L. Brown
@coachshawny · 3:35
You. What you just said so deeply resonated with my heart. I'm not sure that I'm ready to put words to it. But one, I want to thank you for the clarity. You helped me to go back in time and reexperience the passing of my mother's mother, the process, the experience. I could almost feel my desperation because I could sense that my family was disconnected from the reality of what was about to happen and that we had no leader
J.L. Beasley
@Her_Sisu · 4:33
And maybe if I do that, maybe she'll be willing to start to share with me some of the experiences she has had in her life, both childhood and young adulthood, and maybe even her adulthood that that leads her to occur in the environment as she does now. And so that has been my revelation and what I'm committed to hold myself accountable to. Many blessings to you and your family on your grief journey, and I look forward to hearing more of your content on this platform
David Dye
@AveryMannPodcst · 1:13
Ty, that was great. I think I agree with all of the three. There's just maybe the one that comes to mind that I could add would be the death of yourself from one of those grief. You're never the same from when it happens. It's almost like a line in your life of where there's before and there's after. I'll never be able to get myself back before some of the griefs that I've felt and dealt with. I am a changed person