Either in person or via phone. And it's popular. Sports betting alone has climbed to $10.9 billion in amount wagered in 2023, which was a 45% increase from the previous year alone. Now, some of that may have to do with additional states being entered, but this is a huge business, and when we're asking questions why or how this is happening, I find it ironic that this article that asks the question, are cynics right?