Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 3:44
Why do we degrade our selves in making machines sound smart?
Why is human thought, action and execution as an execution of an idea put above one's humanity? Specifically, when it comes to any technology that is discussed in public, let me know. Also on to, like GPD Four and things of the sort, something Jaron mentions. And this book is old, right? It's not new. He mentions how did that search engine really know what you want? Or are you playing along, lowering your standards to make it seem clever? He's right
So love the way that this is framed, this topic, because I've often looked at it somewhat similarly, but from the perspective of why are humans attempting to dehumanize ourselves and become more, quote, unquote, perfect or more machine while we're also creating machines to be more human? It does not make sense make it make sense. And it doesn't
No world just moves forward without some type of issue that arises from us moving forward in the world. I don't know if that makes a lot of sense, but I just know that when it comes to the degradation of ourselves at the expense of technology, I feel like we're just wired to do it. We've done it with radio, we've done it with television, we've done it with the computer, we've certainly done it with the cell phone
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 2:14
Everything else is just bells and whistles and making things seem like they're important, but they're not. If it's your passion to know everything about everything, you could probably get that by reading books and talking to older people. That's what I hope for these younger kids to figure out. But, yeah, this is a very circular conversation in a lot of ways, right?
I think that's the only way to do it because with everything that's going on with technology and just the world around us that doesn't even involve tech, it's easy to kind of end up like just buried underneath the stress and none of this is worth it
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 1:52
It's. This is precisely it, right? We talk we are so proud of our inventions and then the way we talk about them, it kind of deflects away from the pride and moves into some other narrative. I mean, even when we describe the wheel, the invention of the wheel, there's so much that the word monkey, it is used as an insult by many people, stop monkeying around type of a thing, when in fact there's a lot of evidence that supports that
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 3:58
We don't really see it because say 10,000, 20,000 jobs and things of the sort are affected. However, when technology moves quickly and I am reminded of reading journal entries from factory workers when industrial revolution knocked those with the gutenberg dress and the machine and things of the sort, I'm sure people felt degraded, something you have done all your life
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 4:54
She used to do poetry, kick a** women, to be honest, in one of the most sexist empires ever, she was sitting in the court as a scholar, and she would take like these gossipy notes in a notebook, right? And when most of those journals are unfortunately destroyed, but fragments of those were recovered, and some of them are available to read to the public
Where the philosophers of the past maybe didn't maybe they did and they just lost to time whoever they respected and took pieces from, if that makes sense or maybe do you mean it wasn't that the thought was formalized yet so it was very much their take on things? Is that what you mean by personal?
By the way. Now you have me so intrigued that I want to read some of her notes that did survive
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 3:25
If it seems interesting, I'm going to follow you and I'm going to interact with you, learn from you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So back in the day, that relationship was personal, as in your content was being broadcasted, but it stayed in the inner circle and then anything else that was created from it. It was very, very clear that this is interpretive
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Hopefully it's not too loud. Those are the conversations that I would have loved to Harvey, been a part of. Like, to be not just a fly on the wall, but to be able to participate in when it doesn't have all of the baggage of this philosophical term and that philosophical theory, or you know what I mean? Like, to have the different personalities and the different ways of thinking, pushing and pulling on ideas. Like, that sounds exhilarating