The Watchman Decree: "Dangerous"? Innocuous? Something else?

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No matter what you believe or don't believe, what your take is on this, not simply the words, but what you're witnessing of the voices and the passion and how this might fit in or not fit into other aspects of the US. And just generally would love to hear your perspective. Thanks

Length: 4:07. https://youtu.be/hXMZ_CoUU14

@allowthesun
Chelsea Hanawalt
@allowthesunΒ Β·Β 1:59
Yeah, the word just coming to me is scary, overwhelming, and dangerous. I do think it is dangerous. I don't know if I can say too much more at this point. I would have to think more about it or get through the whole video. I appreciate these posts. I appreciate you posting this, because I think I have a tendency to shut this out and to not know about these happenings in the world. And I do think it's important that I am aware
@Taylor
Taylor J
@TaylorΒ Β·Β 2:49

https://youtu.be/7y1xJAVZxXg

And it's interesting to think about a religion where you're not really supposed to idol worship, and yet there are dozens of instances of these televangelists essentially becoming gods in their own right. I mean, $700 million? That is unfathomable for a guy who preaches on TV. Charisma goes a very long way, clearly. And I think that's probably the core of the problem here
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Swell Team
@SwellΒ Β·Β 0:15

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@Binati_Sheth
Binati Sheth
@Binati_ShethΒ Β·Β 4:55
So coming back to the point, I think with religious ideology determining, I would say determining the state of legislature, that is where you do not just slip down a slippery slope. You are literally the slippery slope, right? You have slipped already. So this definitely is, I think, something about the human experience which yearns for answers, but it doesn't get answers, right?
@SeekingPlumb

@allowthesun (Please don't feel obligated to finish listening to my reply. I know it's a lot.)

It's like if you find confidence in your belief, if you find confidence in your God but then suddenly you ratchet it from a place of confidence to a place of arrogance and entitlement and something else that would sheth in a different essay, which was interesting to me because this is not what I thought had happened. And I need to do some research on this. So don't quote me because I can't even remember which essay I heard it in because there's so many in the book
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@Taylor

And so where it may have been in the past, giving confidence to someone who believes about their God and about their personal identity, it's like it's been ratcheted up to arrogance. And I'm thinking that maybe because we've seen polarization becoming more and more stark over the decades in the United States with respect to the political divide, that there's ripple out effects because often for anyone who does have a belief system, their politics are tightly woven into that as well
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@Binati_Sheth

When you were talking about things with surety to them like cults and religions and so on, having someone have all the answers that can then solve or save the individual made me think about my thoughts on when people say they don't believe in science. It's almost like there's so much information now and science is only going to get bigger with respect to the pile of information and knowledge that we have acquired that it cannot be known, all of it cannot be known
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Chelsea Hanawalt
@allowthesunΒ Β·Β 2:45
The burning of women being accused of being witches and, yeah, I guess the places that I saw, I go the same when I see these things. I always want to be very inclusive and respectful of everyone's legion that religion. I believe everyone should believe whatever is calling to their soul and helps them, and I just think it's really scary when it gets pushed on other people. And I grew up Christian and I quickly a junior high had left
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Chelsea Hanawalt
@allowthesunΒ Β·Β 0:23

https://s.swell.life/STEi9TZkABej1wG

Oh, this made me think of the HBO show The Righteous Gemstones. Have you seen that? I haven't finished it. But this Kenneth Evangelist that you're talking about, it sounds very similar to the show. So I'm wondering if the show was based off of him. He thought I would share
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@SeekingPlumb

@allowthesun

I've never seen it. I was gonna say maybe it could have been based on him or any one of the number of other televangelists throughout the years, but then I did a little looking and it sounds like this was created by based on the Mafia and WWE. I can't explain the comparison or how those things tie in, especially since I have never seen the show, but just throw that out there. I how interesting
@Binati_Sheth
Binati Sheth
@Binati_ShethΒ Β·Β 5:00

@SeekingPlumb weasel language

Even with good language skills, it is so incredibly hard to follow these kinds of studies because of the language they use. And this is something that I have discovered as a bitter pill, as a writer in these kinds of industries, people, intelligent people, scientists, they are no longer working for the people. They're no longer writing and explaining and sharing these things for the people, for the world. They are doing it for their peers, right? So scientists write for other scientists
@SeekingPlumb

@Binati_Sheth

Thank you for clarifying the word weasel. I love it. That's perfect. You have so many great points. The one about intelligentia playing a role in this as well and the idea of quote unquote belief in science. I've been listening to some conversations over the past year or so on clubhouse where various individuals in scientific fields are talking about how the studies even are not being funded for the sake of seeking understanding and learning and curiosity and so on
@peacepilot
kat yarbro
@peacepilotΒ Β·Β 1:08

@SeekingPlumb

I know that there's been many decrees throughout the ages, and certainly our Founding Fathers made declarations and decrees supporting their belief systems and just the value system that they had and just standing by and how your words your words have meaning and power, and when you say them, I think that there's something honorable about that. So that's just kind of my opinion on that. Thanks for asking
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@peacepilot

Hey, Cat. Welcome to Swell. A few questions for you. I completely agree that language and words have meaning and power to them. I'm curious on your thoughts of when a pledge or a decree goes, quote unquote, wrong, however you want to define that. And I'm curious about two perspectives for those who share the belief and recite the pledge or the decree when they might find it goes wrong. And then from zero, the outside
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kat yarbro
@peacepilotΒ Β·Β 4:23
Hi, Christina. Great questions. Those who share and recite, let's see when they find it goes wrong or those from the outside when they perceive it to go wrong. So my thoughts are, first of all, all the many decrees that are found in the word of God and then of course, the decrees and clutches that we have for our country or for any country
@SeekingPlumb

@peacepilot

If another group, another faith, was reciting this decree and felt that they had been anointed by God to have authority over all humans, and if the wording didn't concern you, even if it was another faith, at what point would the language like, what would it need to change to in order for it to be concerning?
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kat yarbro
@peacepilotΒ Β·Β 0:36

@SeekingPlumb

Hi, Christina. Yes, I hear you on other religions. And so my thoughts on that are that, yes, other religions do make decrees and prophesy or have creeds or vows that they take as swell and in the End, I think that everyone is proof by what really happens in the End. So that's my thoughts on that. Thanks
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