"That's a logical fallacy!!"
And instead of trying to hear that overall thing that I'm offering, that idea, that perspective, they zoomed in on one specific party I was describing and the phrasing and their perspective, their perspective is not the point. It doesn't matter. I'm trying to offer this overview perspective of why you specifically and that party do not communicate or do not reach any further progress or get stuck and constantly are fighting. Like what is the point when someone yells logical fallacy? It shuts everything down
Hey, Christina, I've been deathly ill. I've got a lot of congestion. I haven't made any swell casts. OOH, I'm sick as a doggy. But this one is so interesting that I decided to chime in. They could probably make up for my voice that I'm haggard and sick anyway. I don't know about your part or your neck of the woods
People at work can be very mean. But at least in a couple where there's still some element of love, it is said that don't let the other person go to bed angry, and please communicate exactly what you want to say. And I know a friend, a very smart cookie, who told his wife this very early on in the relationship that don't ever go to bed angry. If you don't like something, bring it up
J.L. Beasley
@Her_Sisu · 1:22
Someone trying to say in a very nice, semi politically correct way that you're wrong or naive or stupid, but in a nice way with nice flowery words, but very nasty with intent. Maybe that's why I've never heard of it. That's crazy that people are out here saying that to people. It's very inconsiderate of that person's knowledge, experience, point that they're making, perception and et cetera. I could go on. I'm now I'm curious
Anyway, I think the things that you reminded me of that I really appreciate where that arguments are not always intelligent and that it's more than just the words or the topics but there's also the perceptions of self and how we want others to see ourselves and all of these things. Thank you
And so if you want to have a debate and you must have certain kinds of arguments in that context and that framing, then okay, maybe highlighting that it is a fallacy is important in order to modify how you communicate the idea. But in a regular conversation, what is the point that you're not seeking to really understand them? And then it also becomes about my views versus your views and hierarchies of what's right and wrong, what's important, what's not
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 5:00
Like you are egged out chand you're scared simultaneously and all your hair rises. It makes your skin crawl, basically. So I can say looking at the lizard made me for me, Kate, or I can simply say, oh, you looking at that lizard made my skin call, or oh my God, I'm so scared. It's conveying the same emotion, but one makes me seem like a pompous pompey, and the second one makes me seem like a human being
Of course, if I voice anything similar, having only a high school diploma, then I'm perceived as someone who does not value higher education or someone who is some sort of ism against elites, quote, unquote, these sorts of ideas. And it's not. It it's that when someone immerses themselves, no matter what the environment is in this case, we're talking academia, it could be C plus positions in businesses, any of these things
Aayan Banerjee
@BasTalk · 4:57
And if they happen to be a leader of the back, they cite logical reasons, air quotes on that why people should just listen to them. And it's my way or the highway. There is merit to that argument. If I were to play the devil's advocate, there is merit to that argument when there is chaos, when there is crises, when there is a deadline. Democracy of thought at that point of time could cost you very high time for action
But there are these concepts that society seems to have whatever society that is and then what's internalized by the individual and so whether we're talking a specific man and his upbringing and his insecurities and not being able to assert himself or being able to have an opinion et cetera or whether we're talking about the expectations of that grown man and how he quote unquote should or should not behave or act or speak I can see all of these things playing a complex role in why somebody might. You know
Aayan Banerjee
@BasTalk · 3:41
You have an idea, you present it to somebody and they disagree. Now, the follow up question to that disagreement is why do you disagree? Do you disagree owing to the fact that there isn't enough information data? Are you statistically against? Is that there aren't enough cases to prove your hypotheses or your idea that you're presenting? Do you think there is a lack of data? Can I share some more data to change your mind?
This is perfect. Thank you. This definitely clarifies things. I'm going to snag this idea, if you don't mind. I like it a lot
Aayan Banerjee
@BasTalk · 0:28
Absolutely. Feel free to use it wherever you think it's possible. And I'd love to hear feedback. Did it work? Did it not work? Did you come across something out of Syllabus? I'd love to hear some further around it. I guess. To sum this up, great skill is walking on a tightrope over Niagara Falls. Intelligence is trying not to do it. I hope you have a good day ahead
But just reflecting on a conversation they had today where there was a recognizing of no desire. No need to be in the conversation. But at the same time exercising of certain skills and hopefully. Hopefully improving upon them anyway. Is that so? Perfect then. Thank you. I'm heading to sleep very soon, but I hope you have a lovely day yourself
So I'm giving a very practical spin to whatever you said. You've given an intellectual spin to it. I'm giving a very practical spin to it. You see that these people, if they don't get their way in a conversation, they'll go to the extent of putting a spanner in the works and cribbing about the higher management. These are the people who come behind people's backs and complain to you. These are the people who crib, these are the people who will moan
Aayan Banerjee
@BasTalk · 4:24
As a corporate if I were to probably take a macro view that most corporate environments are probably in a very toxic state and led by Mediocre managers who present themselves as a symbol of excellence. And when Mediocrity rises to excellence mediocrity becomes a standard of excellence. And that's the problem that is prevalent largely. Of course there are pockets of excellence, there are exceptions and people learn from previous mistakes. People evolve and try out newer ways to solve problems. But like I said, to each their own
And you realize it practically by having a culture. And I think now I'm starting to make sense by having standards. Most importantly by having norms, right? Norms. And you have to remember that nobody is indispensable. If I'm creating a company, my company is called Avichand Marketing, I could fall sick for 15 days. The company should not grind to a halt. Which means that if I'm creating a company, I'm creating a culture, I'm creating a self sustaining movement
I just want to be the guy who you can come to when you want to discuss something. See, when I set standards, when I set standard operating procedures, when I set norms, when I set a culture I'm giving you your scope of operation, right? Chand within that scope of operation, you can be as creative as you want to be. You can be as happy as you want to be. I'm not going to micromanage you. I do not believe in micromanagement
Let me first preface this by saying I have zero experience in management. I know nothing of these things. But in listening to the both of you. It seems like both of these philosophy could coexist mean on the one chand yes. I can see there being different styles of management. But I can also see that if you want to create a system or a group of people that operate without requiring the hands on of the management style all the time. That can still be done with structure
Other than that, I fully agree that even if you have a structured system culture on autopilot, you might, every now and then need to help people adjust. You might have to make minor tweaks to help your peers or people who are reporting to adjust to the system. All right, that's about as much energy as I have. Still have a sore throat
Chand either start to monologue or start to raise their voices and yell or cut people off regularly. And again, there's some of that as autopilot. Once you set it up, right, people know what's to expect. It's the culture of a room run by Christina. But then there are different personalities that I then have to address
Once the culture is set, once the standards are set, once the norms are set in place, you will still have to be perceptive to the nuances. You still have to keep your eyes and ears open. Watch out for people who are too boisterous or people who are too passive. Chand make sure that you encourage and bring out the best in everybody. So that job is always there. But it's a very doable job. Nothing I would call, quote unquote, a battle
Okay, so I just listened to your swell about talking to people that bring up things like this. And the thing is. Is that when it comes to having these types of discussions with people of whatever the subject is. It's a personality trait. From what I stated here. For the name of this well cast. What I mean by that is like. If you're talking to someone online and they say that you say something. They say. Like
