"…the test of a 1st rate intelligence is the ability to hold 2 opposing ideas in the mind…"
As Scott Fitzgerald has this quote before I go on with this short history, let me make a general observation. The test of a first intelligence is the ability to hold, hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise. This philosophy fitted onto my early adult life when I saw the improbable
Samuel Lacuna
@Sarlax · 5:00
But I think maybe the Liberals don't have the right idea about this topic. I kind of feel like there's some problems with our position there. Maybe I should talk to some Republicans and see what they would do. That would be a dialectical approach to kind of solving this cognitive dissonance I have about my beliefs
If we are aware of the cognitive distance, then there's no guarantee that the person will acknowledge it exists, identify as something they want to fix, and then we'll act on that. So there likely will be pain there. But like you said, there's so many different ways one might go about any one of those options. Whether they will identify as something needing to be fixed, will fix it or not. Blah, blah. To add to your thoughts on dialectical thinking
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:45
I love this question. And for both of you, I think it's kind of dropped itself into defining an intellectual plane. And I'm always the one that kind of crashes these Pardes and talks a little bit about the ephemeral experience, the emotional experience. And to your point, just now, Christina, when we choose to have no emotion, I think that's actually a false premise because I don't think that's possible
Sudha Varadarajan
@sudha · 3:14
But as long as we don't do that and this has become the new society, I don't know that we can get to a point of DT in this new social circles that we have where it is all I don't know. It's the forwards and the Echo Chambers, as Sarlax said. And it's the one way communication. It's not really a dialogue between people, just my thoughts
And hopefully others will as well, where there's again, the trading of ideas just taken to the next level, because now we're doing it in an audio format, as opposed to text
Samuel Lacuna
@Sarlax · 4:37
So that's something else we need to generate back in the Internet culture is not only a way to create more dialectical thinking, to refine our ideas, but maybe to do something that can cause ideas to not be just instantly pushed. Maybe algorithms can shake up what people see online. We have different kinds of feeds that we stimulate ideas. Or maybe stories are more often randomly offered to individuals to kind of change things. Or maybe we'll find a way to organize ourselves into more dialogue oriented culture online
Earlier, I was pondering over whether there are two types that which we are aware of, and that which we are not. But by the very phrase, cognitive dissonance, you cannot have the dissonance. If you are not aware of it. If there is no conflict, then the world can easily be rainbows and butterflies. Anyway, I also really liked your analogy describing these as a function of a window. It's a great visual
It's also like I have health issues, chronic health issues. I hate saying the word disabled technically on paper. That's what I am, but it seems funny to say differently abled. So I haven't quite come up with a new phrase that works for me, but yeah, thank you for that. And thank you for your words of encouragement. I think overall, the whole thing was great to put out there
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Bernie Goldbach
@topgold · 3:09
Sometimes it's good for our own peace of mind to try to figure out what actually is the genus of the ideas that are getting cross talk and deep replay in social means that we don't understand that I don't understand. Hence, I make time every day to look for the opposing point of view. So now I'm deep into the antimascars and trying to figure out what is it about the constant of Liberty that supersedes public health?
Bernie Goldbach
@topgold · 2:16
So it's a matter of voice. And like I'm on this thread because I follow a tribe on Swapcast and some people in that tribe I followed for last five years on other places got to know who they are, by their voice, by their trains of thought, by their imagery, by their shared experiences. And in fact, I don't use Swell the typical way. I only use it to follow people with notifications off that I've listened to and followed before
Bernie Goldbach
@topgold · 0:48
Merely human. I would like to thank you very much. Speaking from my kitchen as a dad in Ireland, thank you for giving me a perspective of my nine year old who has some of the Oct characteristics you describe because just hearing you talk about your own situation and your own perspectives helps me better understand the stress. He sometimes lets himself find his way into young Dylan, nine years old. He drops into things that he doesn't need to