@Riaz
Riaz S
@Riaz · 0:48

Coronavirus Vaccine

I just wanted to open it up and see what people were thinking. And obviously I'm definitely going to chime in since I'm extremely opinionated about this whole stuff

#COVID #Vaccine

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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 4:35

Yes to vaccine! Somewhat effective?

I haven't heard much about it, but they were trying to speed this process up. I think they were going, I don't know if they were going direct to human trials. I don't know. They were cutting some steps. And the other thing is, they were while they were doing the research. So let's say, oh, we're going to go after the viral code. So while we're going to test this vaccine, we're also going to mass produce it
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@Phil
phil spade
@Phil · 2:43

I question the time and effectiveness

And I also raise questions about even if a vaccine is found, can it be mass produced? And then on top of that, do we have the necessary equipment to administer 330,000,000 doses of this vaccine? And our response to PPE just doesn't have a lot of confidence for me that we are ready to handle such an endeavor
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Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15

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@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 3:23
And in many ways it is expected that however we deal with this, it will be very much like the flu, which again, the way I look at it is every year I know who it is, but they all get together. The medical professionals or the industry gets together and tries to guess
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@Riaz
Riaz S
@Riaz · 4:43

Question effectiveness. Will we get vaccine on time 🤷🏼‍♂️

I've known several people who had the flu vaccine and still have had the flu, so I tend to agree with Phil, and I tend to agree that the older vaccines have been a lot more efficacious, and I think everybody should get vaccinated. But the so called annual vaccines in the flu thing is going to be again questionable. The other thing is, if it's that easy to come up with a vaccine, how come we still don't have a vaccine for HIV?
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@Riaz
Riaz S
@Riaz · 2:34
So if at all anything, I'm telling you, I'm extremely happy about everybody washing their hands more frequently and that's how it should be. And that was definitely going to minimize transmission of many diseases. Unfortunately, this covid 19 bug, the coronavirus bug is extremely infectious and so no matter what, every single thing we do is only going to help. But still, the spread is just phenomenal. It's one of the most easily spread viruses that we have known. So I agree
@sudha
Sudha Varadarajan
@sudha · 3:07
And if it is as it is rumored to be, then their vaccine has a shot of being long lasting without needing frequent boosters. I could be wrong. This is just me reading articles published on the media, so yes, a lot of marketing dollars went behind those articles, but I just wanted to add this to the conversation
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@Riaz
Riaz S
@Riaz · 3:21
So obviously vaccines are different kinds and they do different things the way they prevent diseases and things like that. So that's why not all vaccines are the same. And most of my comments were related to vaccines very similar to the flu vaccine. Nevertheless, the hepatitis B vaccine is also a viral vaccine, so we will wait and see what the Monday results show and then go from there. The other very intriguing question I always have had. I'm not a Corona expert by any means
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 4:44

#Vaccines, #immunology... 🤷🏽‍♀️🙈😕 #mutation #virusstrains #covid19

And then the moment it sees it, it can produce the antibodies faster. Yeah. When you brought it up, I was thinking in terms of not just the coronavirus, but I was thinking with people who get the flu. And every year they have a different vaccine and different. It's just kind of basically every year, the flu virus is different every single year. And how do they know what virus is there? So essentially, the body will probably have memory cells to some of it
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 1:32

ABC 13, Houston, TX #hopeful #coronavirus #vaccine #covidvaccine

But you can say based on the science and the way things are going that I'm cautiously optimistic that we can meet that projection that we made months ago, said Dr. Anthony Faucie, the nation's top infectious diseases expert. Nobody guarantees. But I feel optimistic that we will have a vaccine one or more that we can start distributing to people AstraZeneca the drugmaker signed a deal to produce 2 billion doses. If the trials are successful, the vaccine could be available as early as October. If all goes well
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@sudha
Sudha Varadarajan
@sudha · 0:16

https://bloom.bg/3fMXtou

So the AstraZeneca Oxford trial study results are published in The Lancet today and I'm providing a link which is a good read if you are interested in reading about it
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 1:14

Thank you @sudha

And I really wonder couldn't tell if they said it was one shot or a two shot dose. They said that a one shot worked, but a two shot was way more like it was definitive. But they hadn't said for sure that this is how we're going to market this, that this is going to be a two shot toes or whatever. But very good news. Happy Monday to everybody. I'm excited. I'm a glass half full person
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 0:39

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

It will be next year if we're going to get that really like this article, I'm going to try to post it. I hope well, allows me the right amount of time. Let's see
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@beitmenotyou
Michael Burgess
@beitmenotyou · 2:07

info from the royal colage of sergans

So it allows the body to be infected by the virus but not have symptoms and be killed by the virus. But this is why it's scary, because it still leads you to be a spreader, but at the same time, it keeps us sort of safe for now. The other thing that they mentioned is it could be out earliest as the end of this year and probably the latest of summer of next year
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@MysticScientist
Indy Rishi Singh
@MysticScientist · 1:53
I'm no expert. So I'd like to say, I don't know anything, but I do have a beautiful repertoire of doctors, nurses and colleagues who are also integrative medical practitioners. And we've been discussing this at great lengths, and we've discussed that having a vaccine doesn't make sense for this, even the vaccine itself. You're just explaining and reading the content. It's like you might as well just expose yourself naturally and improve your immunity right now
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Indy Rishi Singh
@MysticScientist · 1:26
Is it vital or is it more vital to improve your own immunity and improve your condition so you don't have chronic illnesses or if your family member is a chronic diseases, what is causing those chronic diseases? Is it mainly a carnivorous diet? Is it a lack of sleep? Is it stress? Is it alcohol abuse or cigarettes or what's causing chronic diseases? Because that ultimately we're noticing that most of the people who really suffer and die from this disease have some preconditioned chronic illness
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 4:30
There are some doctors who make a very valid point of distrust because there have been this is the thing that Pharma has done things that have been distrustful. So that's where this is coming from. Again, I'd like to see where the vaccine is coming from. The research obviously needs to be peer reviewed. I know the one in the London study, the UK study right now they're doing it on like 10,000 sample size. The first one was I remember this number. I don't remember
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