That, to me, is murder. Using abortion as a birth control is completely ridiculous. No, I do not like that. But when it comes to things like a woman was raped and why a woman was raped because of her mental health, why would she want to have a kid from her rapist, from her abuser, things like that. Where the fetus isn't viable and it's not going to live after being birthed
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Riva Norris-Jackson
@rivajwrites · 4:58
Of course, that goes into the lines of telling people what to do with their bodies on why they choose abortions. But I'm a former military as well, and I've seen the same thing, and it was just something me growing up as a Christian, I didn't necessarily like. But again, it goes into what you say about control, even if I didn't like it. That's their body. That's their choice. They have to live with that choice
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Raquel Reyes-Aguilar
@RAQsICT · 1:35

@rivajwrites

I've been trying to do research because I always tried to look at both sides of the story again, and I want to understand why some people think this way and some people think that way. Like with my husband, it's not an argument. It's not like we're fighting each other, we're not talking to each other, but we just disagree on the subject. And I've seen a lot of things about even just medications used or this is the beginning
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Welcome to Swell!

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Bowie Rowan
@bowie · 4:06

https://s.swell.life/ST9mr8QvjJXD8cJ

I now live in Oklahoma, which I'm sure, as you both know, not necessarily the greatest state to be in if one needs any kind of reproductive health care, which is what abortion is. And I really appreciate how both of you highlighted that this is not about wanting to choose life. It's a lot more complicated than that. People need to get abortions for all kinds of reasons, which many of you named
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Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 1:49
Hey, Burquel and Riva and Bowie. This discourse breaks my heart, and it health my heart at the same time, because what I'm really hearing is the courage to have critical thinking, like expansive thinking around the complexity of this. We're missing the complexity of this, and people don't want the complexity. And I just am so grateful that we're able to sort of look at the different kinds of people grappling with this, and it distills down to the right to have the discourse
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Riva Norris-Jackson
@rivajwrites · 4:34
And it's like to think that there still could have been some things left over. There are still some things I feel in my body from that situation. And to think they could consider or they would put me in jail. And neither one of those people were there with me. So it's a sad day, another sad day of many to come for people who have been born with the ability to give birth
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Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 0:50

@rivajwrites

Hey, Riva, I just want to pop in here and say thank you for entrusting us and telling us that story. And you bring up such a brilliant point about the culture of accusation and the baton that has been passed from for vigilantes to go see if somebody is in fact performing an abortion or going to an abortion, that there's a whole culture now where there's a reward. I'm not sure it was in Texas or someplace else where I heard that
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Wren .
@aBirdieOnaWire · 3:32

Link to an article from Time that lists some of issues affected by overturning Roe. https://s.swell.life/ST9tJcQSmlP6ZNr

But one of the things that I think that is often lost about Roe versus Wade is that it wasn't about a woman's choice to make her own decisions. It wasn't about autonomy over your own body or agency over your own body. It was about privacy. It was about the due process clause of the 14th Amendment and that the state cannot prohibit a person's right to privacy. And that's really what Roe hinged on
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Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:21

@aBirdieOnaWire

My gut when I listen to you and knowing your story is it pains me to think of you in a situation that's 24/7 in a fearful space because you've committed so much of your life to becoming the truth of who you are. And that's so multi dimensional and so beautiful. And it feels to me like living in a space 24/7 that doesn't allow you to celebrate and bloom into every part of the person you're supposed to become because you're in the fight
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