Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:33
Suffering-phobic world?
We're going to have suffering no matter where we are. And as a human race, centuries from now, suffering is still going to exist. We simply can't eliminate suffering. We are too complex and nuanced as creatures, and we live in a world that is fallen and that has flaws and that has natural disasters. And so even if, like, our man made society was brought to perfection, we had every medicine, every whatever, we cannot avoid suffering. We can't avoid death
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:55
And so instead, what we do is we grab every possible crutch that we can and we hobble through life. I have a friend who's a prime example of this. She refuses to take personal responsibility for what she could do to become a stronger person and grow through suffering. And she keeps trying to find a new diagnosis, a new therapist
So I guess if I had to stick it in a nutshell, I would describe what we're witnessing as traumatized people attempting to survive and that we're not really in a space to thrive and I don't know what the future holds and what that will look like
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:52
With all of the progress we've made at the society, I guess I'm jumbling all over the place, but hopefully this is making sense where it's like we are based basically covered. Like you said, you have a table, you have twelve days and so now we have our basic covered. So now what's left are other issues, inconveniences as it is today
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 2:17
I world say a little side note about maybe we're forging new territory in places that we shouldn't and sometimes the fears and anxieties that come with forging that new territory and technology or whatnot are a sign that we are going to come or we should that little gut feeling thing. This probably isn't the best idea but that's a whole lot of conversation so hopefully that makes sense. Summarize like I said, those three points of every generation unprecedented suffering
But I do think that this is to your point of we're creating more uncertainty for ourselves with the introduction of technology, whether we're talking smartphones or whether we're talking social media or whatever, we have exponential more exposure to those events that are happening, which compounds them, I think. And so I'm just thinking, when I grew up, we didn't have mobile phone. I'll take that back. My dad had one of those brick phones when I was a teen
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:57
We need to handle it with the same care and hesitancy that we would like meditation and you can't obviously get it in the same categories of pharmaceutical. But the way that we should see that is that I think getting away from social media helps a lot in my life. And it's been amazing. And then I think also one good thing that's developing habits that are slower and detached from the screen. Yeah
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 0:14
Okay. Very sorry about that. For audio quality, I just realized that it was recording through my Bluetooth speaker, which is a bit of a distance from me, which is very annoying. But if there's anything you need me to repeat or clarify, let me know
And similarly with autism, it's not only how it disrupts the masses, but how it presents externally, but not the internal lived experience of it. So there is a significant uptick in diagnoses of ADHD and autism in women. But this is because the DSM is built on a stereotype and boys raised differently than girls were conditioned differently. So the way that that external presentation presents itself is going to be different
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:56
Thank you for your thoughtful response. And yeah, we're getting so far off the original topic but I'm enjoying this conversation with you and I think our brains are actually wired similarly. I've never pursued diagnosis for how I interact with the world. That's a whole other topic. But like I said, I wouldn't to be surprised if I walked into a therapist office and after a few sessions they diagnosed me with something or other
J Moor
@Phase_Reality · 4:45
Suffering is what gets me to work on myself, to be a better father, to be a better student, be a better educator, to be a better podcaster, to be a better boyfriend. To be, to be anything. I use suffering because I know where I could be if I don't work on these skills. And then you know where you'll be if you don't work on these skills. And if you do work on these skills, they come with a part of suffering
And the irony there is that things are still just as much a pain in the a** as they've ever been. In fact, in some instances, far more like customer service, right? Customer service used to actually function pretty well, but now you call customer service and you're just tortured. It's just straight torture. Nothing ever gets done. No one's ever taking responsibility for anything. No one's in charge except the AI bots in the office server room
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 2:50
So I think that was the first point that you said that I think is key to this conversation. And the second point being that in creating solutions to old problems, a lot of times we create new problems on a bigger scale. I think an example of this is how in trying to mass produce foods and create foods that can be shipped further, last longer, whatever, we are now seeing the repercussions of that with things that are so highly preserved, so unhealthy, so not even food anymore
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 2:29
I mean, it's kind of funny. I had this totally masochistic thought after getting married. It's like, oh, I'm not going to have breakups anymore. I'm not going to have anything to write from in terms of heartache for music and stuff, because cute love songs are fun, but a lot of really good songs come from breakups too. But I think you nailed it on the head with that question of do people want to work?
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 0:16
And just to add a footnote to this concept too, I think to expand on the question do people want to work on themselves? Or would people rather have other people do the work on them for them? Does that make sense?
And it just was something I didn't want to rinse repeat. And so now, however many years later, looking back on some of these different events, I've come to embrace more of the imprecision because I think that in some ways we sell ourselves on this idea of what is because our knowledge is always evolving and changing
It's all where I can answer for my experiences. No other word, no other nothing. I'm a writer myself, I believe what's your experience when shared with someone, they understand situation and they act like this things will be all right and things get all right with time. The fact about time and everything getting fine is very kind of what to say. Very kind of different for everybody. It cannot be similar. No, not at all
J Moor
@Phase_Reality · 4:47
We had society government, we had big businesses, big corporations who have shaped how the economy runs and how society runs. And it's very confusing that we are told to do things in different stages of our lives, expecting that that formula is going to work for each stage of our life. And it does not. It doesn't. You are constantly evolving. The world is constantly evolving. Therefore your way of thinking needs to constantly evolve
Yes. This idea that people are afraid to work is an absolute fallacy. People are not at all afraid to work. They just don't want to work on some s*** they don't want to work on
J Moor
@Phase_Reality · 3:36
I don't want to work for someone else. I want to work for myself. I don't want to go work helping somebody else's family. I want to work for my own family. And, you know, that's what life started out as, you know. Cavemen you want to go back in those days, you can go back in a day
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:16
For a lot of like, it was just a series of reasons, ultimately. Reason being I got married. And that group was designed for people who were single. Because when you're a single adult, finding community, especially community to discuss theology with is hard. So that group is sort of sacred for single people without having to have people who are married, essentially, but in and we get enough of that kind of thing anyway. So when you get married, you leave
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:55
One, seeking plum earlier in the conversation brought up the concept that because of technology advances, we're basically cavemen living in a world that's advanced beyond us. And when you were talking, Jesse, or phase reality, when you were talking, you mentioned how generations are noticing other generations not wanting to work or things like that
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 4:01
We are so self obsessed and humility is thinking of others before ourselves and thinking about the fact that we don't know, understanding that we're quite small, that we are in a position of student in life. And people don't really want to think that. Like you pointed out, Jesse, that people will adopt a new worldview from one conversation and it's foolishness. It's absolutely foolishness. I have my convictions about my theological stances in my religion
So when we're talking about ideas, I've heard of the Immovable mover. I think I need to read up on it to refresh my mind on it. But just thinking about whatever it is that we have come to understand via science, you know, let alone then the interpretation of and the linguistics and how we frame things. Like there are so many places of nuance that you could shift one of those and suddenly come to a new understanding
Emily Broome
@helloemilybroom · 0:28
Yeah, I don't really have anything to add, but I just wanted to thank you for your reply and thank you for your well wishes. I am feeling better today, at least in my gut, but I totally sprained my ankle so I can't walk. So my mind and my body are doing better, but it is my limb. Anyway, thank you again for your response and hope you have a great day. I look forward to interacting with you more on this app