Although he has not been a stranger to the news headlines, kanye west has really taken things to the next level over the past week. There was the dinner with Donald Trump and Nick Fuentez, and then he was banned from Twitter yesterday for posting a Schwarzenegger on his account. And on top of everything else, there was the appearance, the very weird appearance on Infowars, which is Alex Jones show
Hey, Phil. Wow. There this is just getting crazier and crazier by the minute. And as sad as it is to say this, you know, because I at one point really loved Kanye West. You know, I grew up right at the time when, you know, he was his most popular and his album albums were in some part like one of the soundtracks of my high school years
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:21
Like we are having a social discourse about this, but I don't think most people do. So when they start hearing things a lot, they're like, yeah, that's a Jew thing. That's the Jews run this, the Jews run that. And again, we go back to the control of the media in the 30s in Germany and what happened, but we're just talking about it, which is really important
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 5:00
That's what I'd call it. And with what he did, with his statements, with his actions, and with like the steady dissent, I would say, into openly giving merit to N*** believes. What he did is he made conversations about this topic mainstream. And if you listen to videos from people who survived the Holocaust, there's not a lot of them left alive anymore, right? So there are multiple projects that are immortalizing their voices
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 2:14
Hey, Venai, thank you so much for your perspective. And I think what you're sort of offering up here is to replace the word normalizing for exposing indeed, he's exposed and he's opened the floodgates for attention to be paid to people who are doing this. He's emboldening those who were in the shadows to come out for sure
Binati Sheth
@Binati_Sheth · 3:53
I think what that will do is it will allow certain people to come out of the woodworks the good and the bad. And then it's like when people show you who they are, believe them will happen. So I think that is what this whole thing does. I hope it doesn't hurt people, but I'm not naive enough to know that, to be to the truth, I know people are going to get hurt in the process of this whole thing
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 1:51
You have racism sort of ingrained in how they experience the world treating them. So I think we've got a lot of layers here. And religion plays into it just in terms of how institutionalized these behaviors can be, how codified they can be by people on high if they're not careful. I mean, that's another whole conversation. But I really appreciate the significance of delineating between what's normal and what's just prevalent but not accepted, not normalized. So that nuance is really important
Barbara KB
@barbarakb · 4:51
No problem making a hero out of Hitler, no problems with making anti Semitatements, no problems with certain opinions about gay and lesbian and transgender people no problem attacking someone for their religious faith. That's very different. There are always people like that, and it's commonly there. What has changed in the last five or ten years is all these various media outlets and all these different ways that people can bring attention to themselves because of these sorts of things
Ophelia Johnson
@LadyO · 4:11
But hurt people only know how to hurt other people. And so I love this conversation. And he's not normalizing anything. If anything, he's just adding some more weight to the chatter, which in itself is f****** horrifying. It is absolutely horrifying. But at least we get to have a space to have this conversation and say, enough is enough. We cannot keep turning on each other. We are our brothers keepers
Deborah Pardes
@DBPardes · 3:24
Y'all feel? You're making me think about human nature a little bit when you talked about the blame game and taking responsibility and where in our growth as individuals what happens in our psyche when we're confronted with problems, with inequity, with fear, with a sense of limitation in our lives and we turn outward as opposed to inward. And I think when I say inward, I mean even before we blame people in our governments and even the people with purse strings
Barbara KB
@barbarakb · 2:38
That's very fascinating to me. That's the most interesting thing to me. If you could just define what that means. I think I'm going to understand you a little bit better, and I appreciate your time, because this threat is very interesting to me, and I think it really gets at what I'm trying to understand about where people are coming from and why they think the way they do. About cancel culture and about why actions are taken because of what people say. So thank you
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 4:59
European Jews typically practice Talmudic Judaism in some form or another, because that's how Judaism came to the Western or European world through the Tao mood. The Tao mood is the Greek interpretation of the Torah. So, again, that's the Greek interpretation of the Torah, okay? So the Torah came from somewhere else. It was introduced to them. So let's kill all of that right off the beginning
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 4:20
We all understand it, even if we don't want to admit that we understand it, even if we don't want to admit in front of people that we understand it. We want to act like certain things are not happening, and they are. Now, years ago, I read a book. It was called Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and it's considered the Jewish manifesto. I know there's a lot of controversy behind it because of course, Jewish people say no
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 3:28
But we know in the context of forever, oh, no, it's definitely going to change in that context. That's too much time to just think. It's going to be just like it is now, forever. No. So I don't know. I guess I rambled a little bit, but I hope I made a little bit of sense, because it made it made sense to me
Joey Headset
@JoeyHeadset · 1:54
And look, I wish they were real. I would love to believe that there's these little blue critters having smurfy adventures in the woods. Not legitimate. They don't exist. No smurfs unicorns. So majestic. These white horses with the magic horns don't exist. IRL. I'm afraid Transformers more than meets the eye. No less than meets the eye. No Transformers, no big rig trucks that turn into rubbish despite the best efforts of American director Michael Bay
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:54
But I don't hear anybody standing up saying anything about that. But it's one of those things where, of course, if it's something that favors you, you're going to claim it. If it's something that makes you look bad, you're going to debunk it and say, no, we didn't write that. We had nothing to do with that. So you got to check your sources, though, because as far as I'm concerned, that chosen people