And our natural human needs are organic human needs. So is faith. So is faith. Faith is a natural human need. Faith is inherent to people. Faith comes naturally to people. People feel it under their skin. You need faith when you start your day and you hope that you'll have a good day. You hope that you have a good life. Your hopes and dreams are all based on faith that life will be kind to you. And therein comes the concept to God
J.L. Beasley
@Her_Sisu · 2:56
We're not believers, we're agnostic, so on and so forth. However, you saw them at that bedside, at their baby's bedside, hoping, wishing for a different outcome. Or they will use words like we're channeling positive energy. It is all rooted in faith. We all have this belief in something, energy, whatever you want to label it as, that we can tap into to achieve our souls desire
Do humans innately have faith that when they put their foot down, it's not going to go through the floor or the ground? Yes. That the sun will rise tomorrow morning and set in the evening? Yes. But I think that's different than having faith in, say, a Higher Power or God or the Source or anything like that. What I think is innately human
And some people, as you rightly said, I would say we are channeling positive energy. It's within me, so on and so forth. But really, if hope and faith are inherent to people, and if somebody wants to label that God, who are you and me to take that away from that person? So hope, faith, focus, all these are interrelated, all these are inherent to human nature
And sometimes people say, oh, I'm channeling positive energy and I'm agnostic, I'm atheist and I'm just channeling my inner energy. As long as there is a source of that energy, that source is faith. That source is hope, right? So that's what I'm saying. That if you inherently have hope and faith all new beginnings require hope and faith. If someone calls the source of this hope and faith god, listen to this carefully
There is a source that people channel in difficult situations or challenging situations. If we've come to call that source God, what's the big deal? Chand I love the fact that we all have that source within us. So, yeah, that's why I call myself a child of God. Nothing wrong with that, right?
We can channel that source to give us energy, to renew us, to reinvigorate us. And you don't even have to be a practitioner, you don't even have to be a traditionalist. You could very well just be a spiritualist, like you said, that I channel that inner source of energy. But I don't necessarily have a shape and form for that inner source
And then everything that comes with the idea of trust. But when I start to talk about the ideas of where trust comes from is where I differ in that. There's nothing wrong with saying that you feel that the source of trust and hope come from God. For me, it creates a circular understanding of these things. And for me, if I think that God is not only where I place my trust, but is also the source of my trust, it removes agency and intention
It's something I've really thought through with something that's really organic, that we all have a natural desire to be a part of something bigger than us, so why not God? And being part of something bigger than us is what energizes us, reinvigorates us, enthusiasts us, and lets us go about with our lives. So it's all natural, organic, fundamental. Yeah, just what I wanted to say. All right, cheers. Bye
But if I'm looking at it from your perspective, then we get into this idea of an intentional being. If I believed that there was a God, and if I believed that it was the source of these things, there is also a possibility of there being more influence on my life by this being than simply the source of trust, faith, hope, right?
And the moment you feel like you're a part of something bigger than you, you feel reinvigorated, refreshed, renewed. So that's what I call God. First, you have a desire to be part of something bigger than you. And when you do have communion with that something bigger than you, you feel reinvigorated, refreshed, nude. So that's why very organically, at a very organic level, I believe in God and faith, and that's where I have my debate with atheist diagnostics
Hey, Christina, I realized one more thing which should add to this incredibly beautiful debate. I realized that you are a rationalist by philosophy, which means you use the idea idea or depend on the idea that you can come into knowledge only via logic or reason. So to that extent, you are a bit like Renee Descartes who said, cogito error goes some I think, therefore I am. And you try to justify everything on the basis of logic or reason. Right?
And so I tend to steer clear of philosophical language, but I love the process of seeking understanding and seeking wisdom. And so from your perspective, I might be a rationalist. I don't embrace the label and I think of myself as like there's a lot of things I can't explain in this world, things I've personally experienced that I can't explain in this world. I do use my mind to sort of reason my way through of what's going on
The fact that the mind exists is what philosophers really grapple with, that the mind exists and how it goes about making sense. For example, analytic philosophers say that the mind must use logic, chand, science. And then you have the transcendental phenomenologists who say that the mind must dispose of or bracket any of its prior knowledge and just interact with an experience or phenomenon. What I'm trying to say is that a lot of this jargon, as you call it, and I agree, I fully agree
Will. I'll check it out. Thank you. Just to clarify, I love philosophy. I really do. I think that because some of the classical philosophical questions have been gone over so often, so many times by so many people, that I get bored with it, with those particular questions, but not philosophy on the whole. It's very much a part of how I process things. I don't keep things, I use philosophy
I think you'll like that as well. I think you'll like what the implications of the theory are that the body and mind are intertwined, because what is philosophy? Philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality and existence. And we try to grasp all these things and try to make sense of all these things