Hi, everybody. So I'd like to hear from other people who also work in the drug treatment industry, whether it's a drug rehab or sober living. Iop, how long have you been doing it for? What is your experience been like, period? How do you feel that the industry has been changing for the better, for the worse? Let's talk
Timothy Harrington
@aaiou1 · 4:45
What I see is the treatment must begin with the acknowledgement of the fundamental problem the addiction is attempting to resolve in a person's life. In other words, what needs to be explored is not what's wrong with the addiction, but what's right about it. People experiencing addiction already know that their habits are body and soul annihilating, not to mention socially annihilistic. They require validation, not for the way the addiction wants to meet those needs, but for the needs themselves
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@AFreeMass · 2:44
Like, what did you get out of using? What did you like about it? I could name about 100 things I liked about using up until the end. And they'll tell you it was escape. It made them feel confident, it feel whatever. So we need to look at that as well. We need to not just like, say, drugs are bad many times. There's a lot of staff members who will go to clients, you're going to die if you use that
Timothy Harrington
@aaiou1 · 4:54
That's what we want as human beings. We want closure. We want simplicity and all those things. And that's just unrealistic. Right. Why do we want those things? Because life is very difficult where most of us are in survival mode all the time. And that's people without diagnosis. And you don't have to be in survival mode and have a high A score, adult adverse childhood experience score. Right
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@AFreeMass · 2:48
There are so many people who believe that community based settings are the only way the place I work for is an inhome addiction treatment. You go see the client in their home or you meet them at a coffee shop or whatever. And it's pretty much very client centered. It's like people say, well, how can you let the client do what they want to do? Well, they're in their house, so we can tell them what to do
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Timothy Harrington
@aaiou1 · 4:02
And if you look at the statistics, if you look at the research and the data, what we've been doing is not working to the extent that it can. We should want to desperately be better at how we help people who are experiencing addiction and mental and emotional illness. We should be desperate. But we're not. We're complacent. And you know what they say about complacency. Right. You know this
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@AFreeMass · 1:08
But there needs to be even owners or whatever if people think, oh, okay, I got 30 days clean open a treatment facility also, too. And this is something that kind of gets to people. Just because you have like 1520 years of sobriety and, you know, the book Inside and out does not mean you're are going to be good working in treatment. The two are not exclusive to each other. And that's what a lot of people don't understand
And also, the other side of that hearing, it doesn't work for everybody. I don't know. Page 58, one of my favorite pages in the book and just something rarely have we seen a person fail who thoroughly follows our path. And the other side of that is I was just having a conversation the other day at the end of a meeting with a couple of guys and a couple of my sponsors